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    Posted: 07 September 2019 at 20:43
Lot's of history there Ine. Nice continuing reportage!
 



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and to the next.


for freedom



so stay awhile but spare a thought...











Canadian frigate
(more than 6,000 Canadians, AlsoKnownAs the Cinderella army, were either killed or wounded here )












on august 31st, we commemorated the Battle of the Scheldt, 75 years ago (in november). an event in Terneuzen was the kick-off to a year of celebrations to mark the 75th anniversary of the liberation of the Netherlands. Willem-Alexander invited mr. Trump to the party as well (but he hasn't been spotted). rumour went that Vlissingen didn't throw the party, because it couldn't afford it and Middelburg refused to pay a cent. while Zeeland-Flemish Terneuzen was eager to do the honours. the fierce Battle of the Scheldt was a turning point in WWII and paved the way for the liberation of the rest of the country.
but, again, this battle is little known.







a fleet review was part of the festivities and all ships, from 6 different countries, would pass Vlissingen between 12 am and 1 pm. we saw a couple of naval ships across the water and coming from every wrong direction, saw a brass band and heard the Flushing cannons roar to salute the allied fleet, long before there was a ship in sight, but, except for the Canadian HMSC St. John's, that was sailing back and forth, nothing worthwhile. as usual, we were not even surprised. later saw that US destroyer Ramage had spent the night here.











ancient dutch minesweeper


















Battle of the Scheldt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5GpRdJPc7w
(Flushing after 1min30s)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOpIxtNi2UM
(Walcheren after 4min30s -breaching the dikes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIber1VFkn4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew9O-rOs7vM

Battle of the Scheldt -dutch site with many videos










waiting...




















safety first - no smoking















done waiting!

that huge thing on the right is btw the radar tower.
when a ship is approaching -from sea- through fairways
Galgeput or Sardijn, a bright yellow light is burning.






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TY Hans! pleased to 'meet' you!
(when I think of folklore, I have visions of oversized shoes beside fireplaces and endless wishlists. ;-) and, of course, more corny stuff. this Flushing event was pretty corny too! friends? in the 1960s/-70s the dutch invaded Spain, even took over (patatje van Adje, snert van Bert, etc.). ;-) ).

for Vlissingen the 80 years' war became the 4 years' war. Alva threw a fit when he heard about the Flushing revolt and sent an armada, that arrived during the last days of april 1572. but the spanish would never set foot on Flushing soil again.
despite another attempt in april 1573, known as the battle of Flushing. since 1574, after the siege of Middelburg, the island of Walcheren was free. and remained free.
the capture of Den Briel and Vlissingen was actually a sign for rebellion for the rest of the low lands and led to 80 years of war.
(but in the end the flemish, who did survive the spanish fury, were the losers. to hinder the spanish, the people of Zeeland blocked off our (!) Western Scheldt (river), which meant the end of trade for Antwerp.

btw- the spanish fury massacre in Antwerp is so shocking! the mutining soldiers were yelling: "Santiago! Espana! a sangre, a carne, a fuego, a sacco" / "Saint James / St. Jacob! -him again! :O- Spain! murder, rape, fire, plunder" and that was exactly what they did. in 3 days time, they murdered approx. 7000 - 8000 men, women and children. invaded their homes, took their belongings, raped the women, bashed in their husband's heads, set the city hall on fire. the dogs were drinking blood on the streets.
even the wallonians and germans, initially defending the city, joined the party. although others say the wallonians fled. they stole 20 million worth of golden crowns (french coins). many had those made into armours, during the after party, and painted them black, to reveal they were made of gold).


on to the next war





RULE Britannia!

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Hi Angora, your pictures gave me a good impression of that Dutch folklore. I don't think Dutch folklore can be translated into English. All foreigners think "Crazy Dutch", but we are still a little bit proud that we stood up against tiranny for 80 years.

History lesson for the not Dutch: from 1568 till 1648 the Dutch battled against the emperor of Spain for their freedom.

But we are friends now!!!
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marking the spot where the gallows once were
2nd row: photographers








Op 1 april verloor Alva zijn bril
Aprilletje 6 verloor Alva zijn fles

'On April 1st, Alva lost his glasses
On April 6th Alva lost his bottle'


'bril' is the dutch word for glasses, but is also a pun on the name of the town, Den Briel, as is 'fles', which stands for the town of Vlissingen, the next town to be captured.
it is claimed that the tradition of pranks on april 1st arose to commemorate the victory in Den Briel and humiliation of the spanish commander.














bottle / flask- the coat of arms of Vlissingen


















the sound of music:
some '16th century' videos ;-)
hard to find 'folk songs' with those instruments! they did play some rather catchy music.
and seemed to belong to a theatre group from the province of Gelderland.





wearing St.Jacob's- / St.James' shells!







































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writing april, 1572





more specific- april 20, 2019





a warm spring day





and the boys were back
traffic all around











while waiting (till they were done blowing up enemy fleets or ?)
a great day to 'play revolt' -previous story-





(knights used to use a heavier type of horse btw.
but -also as.far.as.I.know- were already extinct in 1572?)













@ Bellamypark, Vlissingen










'Don Pedro' taking a short ride





















photographer on the prowl?

















hair okay?











so much for the hanging, as we are not allowed to show the bloody stuff here (I think?)


 



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Flushing in 1576

-pic of 1 of the copies that were sold at the Oostkerk in 2017.
approximately 4000 inhabitants back then.
showing the Kom + Alva's citadel in the bottom right corner-



for what it's worth...
IF you'd care to know what this was all about...

1st the boring- long ago, during the 'eighty years war', the southern- aka 'Habsburg' Netherlands (i.e. Holland, Belgium & Luxembourg) were part of the spanish empire. they were not too thrilled about it. (hence that war -that lasted from 1568 till 1648). the people of Flushing were hungry. while the spanish and wallonian troops, stationed here, were the 1st to receive food supplies, the Flushing citizens were becoming more and more dependent on those supplies, but were getting less and less, and the spanish and wallonians were getting more and more.
on the night of april 5, 1572, the spanish required even more living quarters from the city council. when the Flushing people heard about that on easter morning, april 6, during a boisterous sermon at the St. Jacobschurch, they were furious and took off to the city hall.
a guy, who was either drunk or retarded, offered to climb onto the wall and fire a cannon at the spanish battle fleet off Flushing, for a couple of pints. to everyone's surprise, he did fire a cannon and the fleet rushed off.

during the following night, the citizens captured the enemy troops, took their cannons and used them to sink the remaining spanish brigs. within 2 days, the citizens of Flushing had thrown the city council and spanish authorities in jail and had chased off the wallonian troops. this became known as the Flushing revolt. but is actually little known. and, while 'everybody' knows about Den Briel, the Flushing revolt has no part in national history, not even in local history classes.

meanwhile the Geuzen / Sea Beggars had used ports in south-east England for a number of years. until, in 1572, Elizabeth kicked them out, (fearing that their presence might antagonise spanish king Philip II). while sailing 'home', a storm forced the fleet to seek shelter in Den Briel/'the Brill', (Holland), which they found almost undefended, as the spanish troops happened to be in Utrecht putting down riots. so they claimed Den Briel for William of Orange. on april 1! the Flushing people had heard of this success and the citizens'committee send the sea beggars a plea for help, but on arrival on april 13, there was hardly anything left for them to do.

shortly after the wallonians were kicked out of town, some royal spanish brigs arrived. on board was Don Pedro Paceico, Alva's cousin, who came to check on the building of the -spanish- citadel, unaware of the changed situation. the locals had already begun to demolish the citadel and Don Pedro was jailed for a month. and then they hanged him.
they hang him every year.





Pacieco hanged in Vlissingen, 1572
Don Pedro Pacieco opper krygs bouwmeester des H. van Alva, nevens twee Spaensche Jonkers Opgehangen tot Vlissingen in den Jaare 1572 (title on object)

etching by Jan Luyken, Rijks museum


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not what you presumably think this is? ;-)

Originally posted by darosa darosa wrote:

Good church shots, churches are cool!

yes, they are!
(can't pass a church nowadays without running inside! ;-)
perhaps that will change when the temperatures drop?).
and c/b boring?

-speaking of- the St. Jacobschurch in action...






















(promised, in april 2014, I would attend Mieke's performance with her choir, but she happened to be sick that day.
therefore took some pics to show her how 'great' ;-) her 'brothers and sisters' -dressed up for the occasion- looked).














'treated' to a 'great' () performance by some girls from the province of Brabant































ceiling






(does this sound familiar? so you are waiting for the right moment, for instance in front of a church door,
all set up, but when you press the shutter, the camera goes on strike. to find the card was full. )





meanwhile Sjaco & his boys were waiting

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TY both! (SORRY for a very late response!!! ).
glad it was a good goodbye.
('ons Genoegen' ... practically grew up with them. their 'clubhouse' alias practice space used to be directly behind Boulevard de Ruyter (i.e. us)).

initially thought all would be miniaturized in a sweep panorama, but very quickly learned that instead of shrinking everything, it chopped off everyone's/-thing's head or upper half. apart from these distance issues, the only control was the starting point. no idea when/where it would stop.
you mean you take LONG photos Fred?
like the Lech panorama a lot! portrait mode seems like a clever idea!


btw- watched the movie about Michiel on tv thursday night. sort of. a bit of a bore? but nice lighting & great sight seeing!
screen said Vlissingen, showed Veere and the Middelburg Kuiperspoort (where we took the official DM shot). screen showed Binnenhof, The Hague, which miraculously changed into the interior of the Middelburg city hall inside. the government happened to be in Leo's/Pieter's Burgerzaal. screen said Amsterdam, showing the Nieuwe church, Middelburg (Dyxum was there) and the abbey. showed the Koorkerk (which has the oldest organ in the country (15th century). Dyxum was there -1st attempt to find 'our' verger/sexton/koster on palm sunday, because the cloister is normally closed on sundays), cloister, Oostkerk as well. been on Michiel's ship before and on one of the other ships last saturday. seen Zierikzee and so on.
but most amazing of all- seen the Pegelli railings countless times, even in close up!
( full movie -subtitled )

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Originally posted by darosa darosa wrote:


I never succeeded in making a decent sweep panorama. I have no idea why not, it's supposed to be simple.

I find it hard to find the right pace sweep.
Managed one in my Lech post ( after a few attempts), but generally have more luck using the camera in portrait and set the direction to up or downwards (giving more hight, but less width).
Stitching a series of overlapping pictures in LR proved to be much easier.
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Originally posted by angora angora wrote:


aan jullie gedacht maandag


Thanks Ine! It was a good goodbye.
Ben was a member of "Ons Genoegen" and they played 'Abide with me' for him. Very hard to keep your eyes dry then.

Good church shots, churches are cool!

I never succeeded in making a decent sweep panorama. I have no idea why not, it's supposed to be simple.
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did any of you ever try to sweep your camera around?
(in order to get an in-camera 'sweep panorama'?).





























(is Vlissingen btw, in 2014). tricky IMHO.
at very 1st attempt beheaded everybody and everything. ;-)
but haven't tried it since.









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july 25 arrived and I happened to be in Vlissingen again.
so figured I might as well attend the feast of Jacob, or rather- take a pic of all the stones piled up and of the burning candles, to complete the topic with.








(

pers. not too wild about the overload of red + a comptemporary floor. -with gravestones underneath-. do like the ceiling)



on arrival, the ladies/gentlemen volunteers had no idea what I was talking about. "oh, I did see some stones earlier this week", someone said, "in a basket. been wondering what they were doing here, but supposedly someone has thrown them away." "no one -of those stupid church people- informed us. AGAIN!" furthermore they used words that are usually not welcomed at a church.   I refered to the paper, beside the sculpture of St. Jacob. they immediately rushed off to get it. "ooops", they said. "let's turn it around so no one can read it." "or let's get rid of it."
they invited me to climb the tower. opened for the occasion, free of charge.
the temperature had already skyrocketed towards 40+ degrees C (making that old church such a blessed shelter)! (I thanked them politely).





who, we? ...don't have a clue!
(shot from the belly )






the 'silence chapel', -I was curious about, no clue where it could be hidden-, turned out to be just a niche.





candle-lit, cross-less, stone-less






+ a guest book. a lady from Belgium complained that mother Mary was nowhere to be found.
and the volunteer lady, who (had designed the stamp and) was running around, encouraged
-err.. pushed- her to write that down!





(donations to the 'flower fund' in here pls)










upper left corner- huge tv set they have!
















on the left- a window for a glimpse of the ancient floor underneath













2486 more kilometers to go


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