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    Posted: 07 August 2017 at 23:35
So glad all went well. I've recently acquired a printer and finding out it's sort of a whole science unto itself.
 



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That's such reassurance - for you and us! Really pleased that she likes (that eems an understatement somehow) the print and great job in the end!    

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Did the drop off today and any worries I had quickly went away, she's loving it! Even snapped a quick shot on her mobile of me holding the print for the "memory bank".
Had a good laugh over me herding cows in post to save some that would of ended up cut in the crop.

Cheers for the input guys and gals!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote owenn01 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 August 2017 at 13:50
Great to hear it turned out okay! I never doubted it for a minute....

BTW - the 'viewing distance' is an appropriate comment - something like 2.5x the diagonal distance is what is considered a minimum to stop the eye 'over resolving' the image as presented (I hate it when Club judges peer from an inch or so at an A3 print!)

Hope the meeting goes well - and she'll love it!

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It's kinda funky as Lightroom doesn't really have a tool/option for moving something, all you have to work with is the spot removal tool.
So it's a backwards workflow, find a place where you want something moved into and "paint" a large enough area for what you want moved into it. LR will find a match for that space. 99.9% of the time not what you want there so you will have to move the clone source by hand to match and then do some additional fixes around the edges to blend it better.
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Just come across the thread. I love the way you've moved the cows around! Never thought of doing that before! When I think of all the time I've spent trying to get wildlife in the right place for best artistic effect, and I could have just done it in software instead ...

Reminds of the photo mags my father used to read, including the AP where a guy called Ricardo habitually told people to move telegraph poles and buildings to improve the picture. My father always referred to this as the 'Ricardo portable Dynamite kit' but today it all sounds so much easier!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote artuk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 August 2017 at 10:24
Originally posted by SnowFella SnowFella wrote:

Doubt this mob does any kind of individual "finishing" to submitted photos being one of the big box retailers of all things from furniture to bathroom fittings and some electronics tossed in for good measure.
Just another big box store that contract their printing out to another source, in this case Fuji Australia for their off site prints.

I'll find out in the morning how it all came out, got an SMS today that it's ready to be picked up.


If it's going to Fuji to print, then it will be optimised in some way. Most of the Fuji Frontier digital photo print machines will optimise before printing.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote SnowFella Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 August 2017 at 09:35
Wife's still trying to get into contact with her but her little cabin out in the sticks has no phone line (or electricity other than some solar panels/batteries, running water or even a proper loo) and it's too far out for mobile reception.
We'll likely try to catch her on the weekend where she works to hand it over, need to print her a decent A4 of her fav bird before then.
Not really as sharp and clean as I like but was taken more or less from her front porch.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote angora Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 August 2017 at 09:24

glad it turned out fine!!
(and more confidence in you than Neil? ;-)).

we would like to 'hear' how the lucky lady reacted?
bet she will be very pleased!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote SnowFella Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 August 2017 at 07:58
Turned out quite alright, colour seems accurate to my edits. Touch on the noisy side though, especially in the blacks.
Though that is looking at a 30x60cm print from quite up close, back away a touch and naturally that noise is gone.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote owenn01 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 August 2017 at 16:55
Originally posted by SnowFella SnowFella wrote:

I'll find out in the morning how it all came out, got an SMS today that it's ready to be picked up.
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Doubt this mob does any kind of individual "finishing" to submitted photos being one of the big box retailers of all things from furniture to bathroom fittings and some electronics tossed in for good measure.
Just another big box store that contract their printing out to another source, in this case Fuji Australia for their off site prints.

I'll find out in the morning how it all came out, got an SMS today that it's ready to be picked up.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote artuk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 July 2017 at 13:01
Originally posted by SnowFella SnowFella wrote:

Well, with the print discount ending in a few day's this is what I've ordered as a 30x60cm print on metal. Will be given to the property owner as a birthday gift whenever it's completed.

DSC09413_stitch by Johan Olsson, on Flickr

Moved some of the cattle around in post and cloned out a fair bit of things.
I'm kinda "meh" over the shot but hopefully the wife's workmate will like it.


Most photo finishers will "optimize" files before printing, adjusting brightness, contrast, shadows/highlights (black and white points), and colour. This may be done automatically by a machine, or manually by someone with experience, depending on the quality of thr lab. Most professional photo finishers will you an option for them to optimize or not - "not" would only really be an option of you have made a test print with them.and they have supplied you with a colour profile for their printer, so that in a fully colour managed workspace you can soft proof exactly how your photo will look on their printer.

Obviously none of this affects compositional decisions, but I only mention it because you can spend a lot of time fiddling with colour etc on an inaccurate screen only for it to be changed (hopefully for thr better) by thr photo finishers / print shop.

Some modern laptops have very good screens - accurate colour / greys and close to 100% sRGB colour, which is enough for most commercial printers, who often can only accept files in an sRGB colour space. Adobe colour space has a "wider gamut" (more colours) but you would need to check if a particular printer shop can handle files in Adobe colour space. For web, online and onscreen use, you typically need sRGB colour as most software, TVs etc will use that.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote owenn01 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 July 2017 at 12:28
Hi,

First, apologies - I should have sent you something earlier..

However, that said, I think you've ended up with something close to what I was going to suggest anyway so no harm there! I do like the balance of the cows in the shot - they are nicely distributed and show what the farm is all about; I think it's a nicely balanced 'context' shot. Good that you lost the 'shrubbery' in the bottom right of the frame as well - far too distracting. I guess there is little that could be done to make the shot more interesting - the location 'is what it is' after all, but as long as the friends wife likes it what is there to be unhappy about? I guess you could offer to go back and re-shoot at another time of the day etc., but you would have to ask the cows to come along as well - might be a problem...

Please let us know how well it was received - good or bad!

Best regards (and good luck),

Neil.
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