Samples: Leitz Tele-Elmarit 90mm F2.8

Samples: Leitz Tele-Elmarit 90mm F2.8

There are the following versions of this lens:

1. Tele-Elmarit 90mm F2.8 - aka "fat" Tele-Elmarit
   
2. Tele-Elmarit-M 90mm F2.8 - aka "thin" Tele-Elmarit
   
   mount: LM
   format: FF
   year: 1964-1974 (1) | 1974-1990 (2)
   max aperture: F2.8
   min aperture: F16
   elements/group: 5 in 3 (1) | 4 in 4 (2)
   aperture blades: 10
   min focus distance (mm): 1000
   filter diameter (mm): 39
   length (mm): 60 (1) | 67 (2)
   weight (g): 355 (1) | 225 (2)
   
   additional information:
   (1) Leica Order No. 11807, 11899, 11800, 11129-black
   (2) Leica Order No. 11800
   
   
   (1) | (2)
   
   
   This thread is open for C&C and for posting additional pictures. Please ONLY post pictures taken with the lens in the title- or start a new thread.
   Please state camera, version of the lens and adapter in your post!
   
   Edited by Micholand - 18 January 2018 at 18:20

Great set of examples of this great lens.

It might be helpful to know about the serial number and the type of the Elmarit-M since there is some variation of IQ.

And a few more...

#6 | @f2


#7 | @f8


#8 | @f5.6


#9 | @f8

Fred_S wrote: Please stop it Michael, they are too nice, but this year is dedicated to Meyer already. Maybe a Leitz theme next year ?

Good idea Fred, at least then I can participate allthough I'm on the look out for a Meyer as well.

Michael, does your Tele-Elmarit 90/2.8 show any dark corners on the A7? My Elmarit 90/2.8 and Elmar 90/4 both do, but I was wondering if the negative element in the back of the Tele-Elmarit takes care of that problem.

Micholand wrote: Harald, it seems that you mix up the "fat" 'Tele-Elmarit' (built from 1964-1974) superseded by this "thin" 'Tele-Elmarit-M' (built from 1974-1990). Also the optical scheme of the previous Tele-Elmarit is different: 5 lenses in 3 groups. And then there is the first version 90mm F2.8 'Elmarit' (1959-1974) as well as latest 'Elmarit-M' 90mm F2.8 (introduced in the 1990s) - sample thread . Names can be confusing, so I've added a lens pic to visualize and make it more clear which 90mm Leica-M lens this thread is about

I am not sure things are that simple... I have a "thin" version, with serial number dated to 1976 - should be Tele-Elmarit-M. On the lens, however, it says Tele-Elmarit (without the M). And there are small minor differences between the picture of the Tele-Elmarit-M you posted and how my lens actually looks like. I believe my copy is actually Tele-Elmarit-M, but it can be confusing...

Edit: I am adding 2 photos of my copy (sorry for not taking a serious product photo, but only snaps of the lens:
side view:

Top view:


The lens is in bad condition, but you can see that it says Tele-Elmarit, although it has a Tele-Elmarit-M look and serial number.

Edited by rovhazman - 17 January 2018 at 19:58

pegelli wrote: Michael, does your Tele-Elmarit 90/2.8 show any dark corners on the A7? My Elmarit 90/2.8 and Elmar 90/4 both do, but I was wondering if the negative element in the back of the Tele-Elmarit takes care of that problem.

Pieter, definitely the old first version Elmarit 90/2.8 (1959-1974) seems to have some problems with dark corners on the a7, especially when focused (close) to infinity, which the Tele-Elmarit-M doesn't exhibit.

Did notice this as well and at first was of the assumption that it was the hood 12575, but then again used the same on the Tele-Elmarit (see snaps above). So most likely it's due to the long tube(!?), because the first version also has issues with flare and low contrast due to light reflection inside the tube - will post some sample shots in the other thread soon, too.

But would need to check this again while shooting both lenses side-by-side under same conditions and settings; my gut feeling at the moment still is that this occurs only when the Elmarit is stopped down and far focused.

Pieter, you're spot on with your observation! I can fully confirm that this is due to the smaller diameter of the helicoid adapter in conjunction with the long tube of the Elmarit 90/2.8 and its recessed lens elements. Though no issues with the Tele-Elmarit-M on same helicoid adapter.

Just took a sliding calliper and measured both my LM-adapters. The standard, non helicoid, adapter is fine, but that is to be expected due to the larger diameter of 41,15mm. Whereas my LM helicoid adapter has a diameter of 36,25mm only, which leads to slight corner falloff at wide open apertures and darker corners when stopped down; not really an issue for me, could easily be cropped if necessary - samples here.