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    Posted: 19 December 2018 at 09:17
I've the FW50's from Sony - none failed yet. Bought cheap chinese - all failed within tree years.
Bought 4 Duracell - now tree years old - a bit less than the FW50's but good enough for my needs (i charge the Duracells in a non-sony charger (with changeable plates, so i can charge my np400's with it) with an indicator so i can keep an eye on them). The duracell's also keep the charge rather well (not as good as the sony's but still more than good enough) - the chinese ones loose a lot of the charge after a few weeks.
The duracell's also work in my nex c3 - that one refused a lot of the cheap chinese ones (the c3 is my battery test-bank too).
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote glad2badad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 December 2018 at 01:48
I've been using Watson batteries for years now (for a couple different cameras) and haven't notice any difference between them and Sony batteries (except for cost). B&H carries them.
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I bought a new pair of the Wasabi ones - one of them worked well, but the other stopped holding a charge after 2 or 3 uses. A DSTE battery I received with a used camera is still going strong. Too small a sample to conclude anything, but will likely take my chances with DSTE over Wasabi next time.

I have never used Ravpower, but they currently have a sale for 50% off with coupon code WIRE5034 on their site.
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Originally posted by beautiophile beautiophile wrote:

There is a "Wasabi". I hear much good feedback about that brand's FW50. Maybe you can consider.


I use Wasabi. They are good. They've even proved more reliable than one of the Sony ones I had!
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Thanks, just ordered 2 DSTE for €20 on Ebay at GB!
My unbranded 1600 mAh unloaded in bag after few months.
Now look how they behave in grip....

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Post Options Post Options   Quote pdeley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 November 2018 at 15:21
There seems to be a lot of flux in how the off-brand camera batteries are branded versus who actually makes them, but so far I haven't had any problems yet with Wasabi, Re-fuel, Lenmar or Bower branded ones - including some that came with used bodies.
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The top rated on Amazon (must take with grain of salt those ratings!) is called the “BM Premium” but, it does not mention the A7II at all in models it works in (also, just bad Amazon page upkeep, probably — common with this cheap crap from China, OTOH: some reviewers say it does not work in A7II).
It has 545 reviews which, for a battery is way too high. Probably 75-90% of them are fake.
BTW: BM Premium should hire a marketing or design consultant for a name change ASAP. (For non English speakers here, BM is short of bowl movement or a poop.)

Moving on… 💩

There are many other brands but few have ratings of more than 1-5 people. Too few.
When I do a more precise search; the brands mentioned here, do not show up at all.
But I think that is, again, because of bad Amazon web page management by the seller.

Somebody really needs to buy a lot of camera batteries and run them through tests to rate them. I bet the Sony would come out on top but, maybe for $20± less, a couple other brands would do well and a few junk batteries could be avoided! Ultimately, this needs to be some kind of battery certification and classification by a neutral expert body, like we have for memory, electrical devices, etc.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jmco Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 November 2018 at 14:53
I have found over the now 20 or so years of using lithium batteries, and dealing with students abusing/using devices with them, that it is usually an issue of bad charging habits that causes poor battery performance. (Batteries are more resilient now but, the devices use so much more power that it is a break even.)
First, never use a new one strait out of the box. Charge it overnight.
When you do use a device, never drain to completely dead. Contrary to old or misinformed methods, it is best to stop using a lithium at about 50% but no less than 25% give or take a few percents. If you go to 9% once in a while, it is no big deal. Just try to pull it before it is in full starvation mode.
These percents I mention here are pretty wobbly. Some might say higher or lower on some. Follow any approach and see if it helps. Starting with a new battery!
When you recharge, do not unplug until at 100% Regardless, the ABC method is still preferable when in a tight spot. Always Be Charging. But then, when you are out of that tight spot, do that recharge to 100% for sure.
Also, do not expose the battery to heat or cold. Keep it at human comfort conditions, just like the camera.
If your device has some kind of wi-fi, BT, cellular or other wireless options on it, turn it off when not in use or not needed. That constant drain is no good.
Brands do matter. Yep, Sony is expensive but, they do work well when the recharging is managed well. Regardless, there are always bad battery batches (I think they did a recall on one batch not too many years ago?) There are also bad devices. Either a model (that XYZ is known for draining batteries like a vampire) or a defective component, bad engineering for power consumption, etc.
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Originally posted by Muby Muby wrote:

I have used and can recommend the DSTE brand. 1950mAh as opposed to only 1020mAh for the Sony genuine battery and only a third of the price (where I live).


I also use DSTE batteries and chargers. Very good for the price.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Nordlicht Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 November 2018 at 08:40
Originally posted by jmco jmco wrote:

Sony NP-FW50 batteries are ridiculously expensive.

Yes!
Originally posted by jmco jmco wrote:

(Yes, I know how good they are… Just not over $50 good for a non pro… Hey Sony, make them $30 USD and you would sell more!)

Here I don't agree. In my experience they are not so good, but maybe it's just me or I got some bad examples or they have improved them, but my ones are bad. Had 3 of them for my A55, one was dead (not rechargeable anymore) after about 3 years moderate usage. The other ones.., oh, still 68% click, click, click, 5 shots later, empty :(
Originally posted by jmco jmco wrote:

What are some other battery brands people have had good luck with?
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I'm also looking for new ones as my original ones now reach their end of life.
My collegue (A6000 user) recently recommended Baxxtar Pro, easy to find on Amazon as they're red. 100% compatible, with info chip, but only the same capacity as the original. 23€ for one. Not sure in which markets this brand is available.

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You have the advantage (compared to us down under) of on-line retailers with reviews, where you can check which brands are popular and whether users report issues.
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I have used and can recommend the DSTE brand. 1950mAh as opposed to only 1020mAh for the Sony genuine battery and only a third of the price (where I live).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote beautiophile Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 November 2018 at 05:35
There is a "Wasabi". I hear much good feedback about that brand's FW50. Maybe you can consider.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote al Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 November 2018 at 00:45
I've bought used genuine Sony batteries for about $17 each. I haven't noticed any problems yet.
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