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    Posted: 30 November 2018 at 17:35
There are some unique features of my A700 and A77 (past time top level APS-C Sony A-mount cameras) that I have come to appreciate to the point that I do not feel comfortable using a camera that lucks them.
First is the clutch, by pressing one button just in the right place under my thump I can disengage Autofocus and switch to Manual focus without having to let off the lens and possibly loose the moment. And vice versa.
Secondly the Direct Manual Focus mode. An initial focusing from the camera which then gives me manual control to finer focusing on the depth of the hair of the model or the part of the flower I prefer.
Thirdly the pleasure to change the aperture while previewing it and even taking the photograph while holding the preview button.
Fourth, I can be in Continues Auto focus and when need comes to focus more accurately and hold focus I just use the centre focus point and press and hold the joystick. Take the photograph and without switching or delay return to Continues Auto focus for tracking my subject.
Fifth the auto screen off sensor of the viewfinder. It is invaluable at night photography. With other cameras I am forced to leave the back screen always off because the glow of the back screen disturbs framing.
Am I right that these are unique features? Do you like them too? Are there others that you would like to add?
Even the eye start auto pre focus has some use to me but works best in the A700 which has the handle sensor also.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Aavo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 November 2018 at 17:47
Actually do not now answers. Can be, that some of these have been unique, but competition makes lot from unique to usual. What I really like on my a6500, are:
- auto ISO programming, resulting with superb possibilities to shoot in A and P modes
- focus magnification, allowing to shoot great sharp shots "through the fence"    
I think a6500 is not the first model with these functions.
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Most of the firmware/UI stuff is shared between current A mount and E mount cameras now for better or worse. For example: my A68 has the same auto ISO settings as my A6000, the same customizable Fn menu, etc.

1 & 2) The Maxxum 70 is the only camera I've had that supported the screw-drive DMF. According to reviews the LA-EA4 adapter has the same capability.

Pretty much all electronic mirrorless lenses support DMF. All SSM, USD, HSM A-mount lenses support full-time manual focus on any body. I believe Canon USM lenses had this back in 1987.

3) E mount cameras have the same aperture/shot results ability as A-mount. They don't have a button normally assigned to it, but the function is assignable. Most E mount lenses focus stopped down, so you get aperture preview by default without pressing a button.

4) Not sure what you are describing, but it sounds useful. AF point selection isn't great with any of my current bodies (A68, A6000, A7II), but they do share the same UI.

5) Not sure what you are describing here either. There are eye sensors on all the EVF cameras that turn off the screen while you are using the EVF. I don't think any camera allows you to have both the EVF and rear LCD on at the same time.

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Originally posted by Hidrieus Hidrieus wrote:

First is the clutch, by pressing one button just in the right place under my thump I can disengage Autofocus and switch to Manual focus without having to let off the lens and possibly loose the moment. And vice versa.

Secondly the Direct Manual Focus mode. An initial focusing from the camera which then gives me manual control to finer focusing on the depth of the hair of the model or the part of the flower I prefer.

Thirdly the pleasure to change the aperture while previewing it and even taking the photograph while holding the preview button.

Fourth, I can be in Continues Auto focus and when need comes to focus more accurately and hold focus I just use the centre focus point and press and hold the joystick. Take the photograph and without switching or delay return to Continues Auto focus for tracking my subject.

Fifth the auto screen off sensor of the viewfinder. It is invaluable at night photography. With other cameras I am forced to leave the back screen always off because the glow of the back screen disturbs framing.

Am I right that these are unique features?

I seriously doubt that they're unique in the world of photography ... but it's too big a world for me to know for sure.

What is auto screen off (fifth)? I have an A77, but I don't know what you mean. If you mean automatic switching between LCD and EVF based on eye proximity, that's a very common feature of many cameras.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Hidrieus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 December 2018 at 22:55
I made a vague comparison enjoying these unique, for me at least, features having in mind the Nikon D90 against A700 and the Pentax K5 and Nikon D7000 against the A77. Thank you for the comments.
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I think there is one feature that's totally unique to the SLT line: the specific LCD articulation used in the A77/A77II/A99/A99II. It's the best approach I've seen in any camera, and I'm surprised that even Sony has failed to use it in other models.

The SLT mirror itself is almost unique ... but the concept has been used in past cameras, although in a different way.
 



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Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

I think there is one feature that's totally unique to the SLT line: the specific LCD articulation used in the A77/A77II/A99/A99II. It's the best approach I've seen in any camera, and I'm surprised that even Sony has failed to use it in other models.

If I had a dollar for every photographer who wished that their screen had the same articulation as my A99ii/A77ii, I could afford a second A99ii.
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Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

I think there is one feature that's totally unique to the SLT line: the specific LCD articulation used in the A77/A77II/A99/A99II. It's the best approach I've seen in any camera, and I'm surprised that even Sony has failed to use it in other models.
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That's indeed a unique feature of some SLTs. The A55, A57 and A65 have a similar articulated screen which I find very useful.
Even my old Canon Powerhot (300€) had such an articulated screen, which you nowadays don't even get on > 2000€ models (beside A99II) from Sony
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Winwalloe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 December 2018 at 10:18
SLT uniqueness at its time was of course the constant live view in the EVF with auto focus etc :) (the magnifying function is great as well, I use it constantly for critical focusing).

The comment on the LCD hinge is a good one! The articulation is useful, seems solid while really quite thin.
And the hinge on my small Olympus broke again (its design it more complex, maybe thicker, and with less articulation...).

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Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

I think there is one feature that's totally unique to the SLT line: the specific LCD articulation used in the A77/A77II/A99/A99II. It's the best approach I've seen in any camera, and I'm surprised that even Sony has failed to use it in other models.


+1 on that! I love the articulation on the a77. Amazingly flexible and useful, on all kinds of neck-wringing situations, from macro to astro. Also love that I can flip it over the EVF, for a waist-VF-like experience. And yes, it's been great for selfies (or couplies) too.

Apparently this type of articulation is unpopular with vloggers, who can't flip the screen over and use an external microphone at the same time. That's the major objection I got when I floated the a77 method in another forum polling for articulation styles. It's a limitation entirely irrelevant to me, but maybe that's why newer cameras don't use it.
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Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

The SLT mirror itself is almost unique ... but the concept has been used in past cameras, although in a different way.


And in the LA-EA4 for the e-mount adaptation
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Originally posted by Jonas A-R Jonas A-R wrote:

Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

The SLT mirror itself is almost unique ... but the concept has been used in past cameras, although in a different way.


And in the LA-EA4 for the e-mount adaptation
The LA-EA2 and LA-EA4 turn your e-mount camera into an SLT, besides that, it is from after SLT cameras.

I do not understand why no e-mount camera has the swivel screen of the SLT's
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

I do not understand why no e-mount camera has the swivel screen of the SLTs

As suggested above, I think we can blame vloggers who think that the most interesting subject in any scene is their own talking head.* Surely if they are so desperate for validation they could attach external monitors (which would also display a larger image) and then Sony etc could provide properly articulated screens on their mirrorless cameras.

In the meantime, I don't vlog, and I do have my DSLTs.

* To be fair, some vloggers do have something interesting to share.
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Battery indicator on top LCD panel.

I'm surprised at the SAR polls that weigh heavily against E-Mount ever getting a top side LCD, as it is typically thought of as redundant and therefor a waste of space. Little appreciation for the always on battery indicator is ever given. It's always on, when camera is on, unlike battery indicator for rear display LCD. This is very advantageous for checking battery without having to touch the camera. Handy for long video clips and time lapse, or just checking in hand without having to press the display button or tilt the camera.

Rear display LCD only shows battery level for a few seconds, and then it disappears until the display button is pressed again. The only way to get "always on" rear display battery indicator is to have the screen programmed to display all info. That's a really messy screen, and I personally refuse to shoot with it overlaid upon my view. I have my camera set to never show it.

AF Range Control with Yellow AF Points.

Am I mistaken in thinking the a7R, and maybe RII did have AF Range Control, and like on A-Mount, it would color the gray AF points to bright yellow color? If so, or not, the feature was not carried over to the a7III or a7RIII, and those cameras are stuck with gray. This is one of the main complaints I hear about E-Mount on many forums. I'm pleased the a99II provides for AF Range Control with yellow AF points. It's very handy for many shooting scenarios.

There are many other things, like multiple front mounted control buttons, and exposure comp dial that can be repurposed, and can reset itself. But I'll leave it there for now.
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