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    Posted: 03 February 2019 at 18:53
I live in the Midwest in the USA and in May I will be taking my wife to Greece for 2 weeks (celebrating 25th Anniversary). It will be both our first time and I want to make the trip as memorable and special as possible and take a lot of pics and hopefully capture a few great ones.

I will be bringing an A7iii and am trying to decide on lenses to take. I have the 24-240 3.5-6.3. MY question is it sharp enough / good enough to avoid needing to bring the kit 28-70 3.5-5.6 as well? Also is what is the consensus as far as using the 24-240 exclusively or also bringing the Minolta 70-210 f4 beercan and The LAEA-4?

In addition to the 24-240 I plan on bringing the Sony 50 f1.8 prime.

If It makes sense to bring the 70-210 and the LAEA4 then I might as well bring my A mount Tamron 90mm 2.8 (Macro) also.
Lastly any thoughts on the Sony 16-35 2.8 GM. I am seriously thinking about charging it. I work a second part time job in the fall and would be able to pay it off by mid-October. $2300 USD is quite a bit of money but this is the trip of a lifetime for me and would love to do it right and not miss out.

I am ultimately leaning toward going with the 16-35 2.8 GM, 24-240 3.5-6.3 and the 50 1.8 and leaving the kit lens and a-mount glass behind.

If for some reason I choose not to get the 16-35 GM then I would bring my 14mm 2.8 Rokinon MF lens for ultra wide.

Please, any advice or recommendations would be most welcome.

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If you haven't already, my first recommendation is to read the lens reviews here on Dyxum. The 24-240 gets one 3.5 score, all the rest 4's and 5's. For a 10x zoom, that's pretty good. It certainly should out perform the beer can on an LA-EA4. Definitely the 50/1.8 FE. There will always be times when you want the fast aperture, and the light weight.

As to the GM16-35/2.8, that's something I don't have an opinion on. I really like the range, but the size, weight and price are well beyond where I want to go. But like you say, it's a trip of a lifetime, so if you can swing it, you won't regret it.
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Greece is wonderful. I have to say that as I go back there to work again in April Where in Greece are you going? I guess Athens, maybe some of the Agean islands (like Lesvos, Kos or Samos) or Crete. A wide angle like a 16-35 makes sense. On Lesvos wide angle (the 10-18 on my A6000 and the Minolta 17-35/3.5G on my A99m2) is the lens I use the most. But I would go for the 16-35/4 as it is a good and much more affordable lens. Consider the 28/2 as a low light wide angle.

The 24-240 seems a good compromise. As you have it, I would go for that one it is good enough for what you want it to do.
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Maximizing portability of my kit has been a concern for me recently. I am now testing the A7 range. I have started with a first generation A7 (which will sooner or later end as full spectrum or IR body), the 24-240mm and the Zeiss 16-35 F/4. I have a A99M2 which I have been using with a Tamron 28-300mm (most recent version). This is quite a good combo although the 42MP sensor pushes the super zoom to its limits. Results are nevertheless very much acceptable. In comparison the 24-240mm is even better balanced with the 24MP A7 sensor. It's at least as good as the Tamron. And I particularly like the additional 4mm at the wide end.

I have tested the 16-35mm G lens at a store. It's certainly an outstanding lens but I could not justify getting it given the price, size and weight. I would consider it only if I would use a 42MP (plus) sensor. The Zeiss lens, if not outstanding, is still excellent (and works with a higher resolution sensor as well).

So I would recommend the combo of the 24-240mm and the Zeiss 16-35mm. If you then still have too much money left think about a nice prime to add.
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Take a look at the Athens thread and my Instagram feed for some inspiration.
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Thanks for the suggestions and inspiration. Addy, I have rented a place in Athens so that will be 'home base' but planning on day trips and an overnight or two on islands.

I think I have decided I can make due with the 24-240 and leave the big beercan and A mount glass + adapter at home. I am tempted to leave the kit lens behind since I think I can suffice but it might be mice to have the smaller / more portable 28-70 along for quick jaunts around town vs the rather large 24-240. I will wait and see how full my camera bag is before I decide for certain.

I have a bit to think about with the recommendations of the 16-35 Zeiss f4. I also do astrophotography and the extra stop at 2.8 would allow me to also use the G Master asa astro lens. Alternately though if I were to go with the zeiss 16-35/f4 I could add the 24mm/f1.4 GM prime lens. Supposedly that lens is killer for astro work and perfectly sharp everywhere. The $$ zeiss 16-35 + $$ Sony 24 GM = cost of the Sony 16-35 GM and I would have an extra prime lens in my stable.

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If about fast prime, my beloved focal length is about 35mm. For me it is more versatible, as 50mm is too narrow, surely indoor.
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That 24/1.4 GM is a nice one. Would do good in those dark Greek Orthodox Churches I would bring it if you buy it.
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I would chose the 24/1.4 GM + the 1635/4Z over the 16-35/2.8GM. The 1635/4 is lightweight and small and you can also do astro with it (admittedly, the 1635/2.8 is also very lightweight). I do this regularly with my A7 and the results are pleasing. You can still do multiple exposures and stack them to reduce noise if you are unhappy with the results.

I've visited Greece last year and my most used lenses were:
- 1635/4 (landscapes/cityscapes)
- Fifty prime (portrait stuff)
- 70-200/4 (landscape)

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Thanks for the advice folks. I gave decided to vote with the 16-35 f4 zeiss and probably add the 24 1.4 GM. Will be more versatile and from what I have seen the Zeiss 16-35 renders beautiful colors.
I will take the 14mm 2.8 ssmyang in case I need ultrawide and low light
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 February 2019 at 13:43
Originally posted by Mark Twain Mark Twain wrote:

I've visited Greece last year
Without pictures it did not happen
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by Mark Twain Mark Twain wrote:

I've visited Greece last year
Without pictures it did not happen


I promise improvement and post some pictures this week (will also post a link in this thread)
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It depends on how you like to travel. If you're happy taking a bigger camera and lens setup, then I think the superzoom you mention could be a good compromise and would be a 1 lens solution. I think adding the 50/1.8 just for insurance, as the zoom is obviously quite slow, would help (but you may not even get it out). The 50 is very small so not an issue to take along. I travel with just a 35/1.4 and occasionally bring a 50 but I just prefer 35 so it never comes out. I personally think a 1 lens solution is the best way to go, keep it as small and light as possible, don't bother with a bag maybe, just wear it with a strap. That's what I do. It'll be nice to take some shots but it's obviously quite low down the list of things to do. Make some memories and come away with a few nice photos. Have fun!
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Originally posted by ricardovaste ricardovaste wrote:

It depends on how you like to travel. If you're happy taking a bigger camera and lens setup, then I think the superzoom you mention could be a good compromise and would be a 1 lens solution. I think adding the 50/1.8 just for insurance, as the zoom is obviously quite slow, would help (but you may not even get it out). The 50 is very small so not an issue to take along. I travel with just a 35/1.4 and occasionally bring a 50 but I just prefer 35 so it never comes out. I personally think a 1 lens solution is the best way to go, keep it as small and light as possible, don't bother with a bag maybe, just wear it with a strap. That's what I do. It'll be nice to take some shots but it's obviously quite low down the list of things to do. Make some memories and come away with a few nice photos. Have fun!
If Athens would be the main location, I would travel with a 16-35 and an 85mm - just a 35mm is too limited imho - but we're not the OP
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