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    Posted: 02 May 2019 at 14:46
Hi

I got a used A7R3 house 6 months ago but havent used it much due to health reasons. Now i am in need of some extra money so im thinkig about selling it with 3 objectives :

Batis 25mm f/2.0 ; SonyZeiss 55mm f1.8 and Sony 90mm f/2.8G Macro.

Here in Norway i can get about 4700-5000$ for all on the used market.

Now i got a offer to trade the 3 opbjectives and A7R3 for a A99mkII with Sony Zeiss 16-35mm f/2.8. He will also pay me 1750$ cash inbetween.


I was initially (with a heavy heart) thinking to just sell all. But As i already have an old A900 house and my favourite SonyZeiss 135 f1.8 and minolta 28-135mm and Sony 70-300G im thinking this could good compromise. I get 1750$ and a new house to use with my favourite 135mm f/1.8. But also loose the better? A73R house and great 90mm macro, the 55 f/1.8 and zeiss batis is not the important to me...

Do you think this is a good deal overall?
How much better is the A73R Af etc compared to the A99 mkII?

Your advice is apreciated!

- Artur from Norway


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I think the AF of the A99ii is better than the A7Riii, only you will lose a half stop of light due to the pellicle mirror. In my opinion this is insignificant overall, but for some people it can be a show-stopper, so ymmv.

New an A99ii and CZ 16-35/2.8 will set you back ~5400 over here in the Benelux, don't know about Norway.

Given the value of the equipment you're exchanging you're effectively paying max. 3250 $ (5000 - 1750) or about 2900 for it. On paper that doesn't look like a bad deal, but it also obviously depends on the condition of the two cameras and the lenses that are exchanged.
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Deal is fair. Just know that a mount items, lenses and bodies are tough to get any money for if you decide to sell later while e mount is wildly popular at the moment and easier to move. If your ok with that the a99ii is a great camera.
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The a99ii and the 135/1.8 ZA would be a killer combination....
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it's all brilliant stuff, the best! if you're into landscapes, architecture, interiors, you'll love the 16-35! (are you? ;-)). a super lens! (lens pages here for samples?). but also a rather heavy lens. + -luckily- a rather heavy camera. (you mentioned health issues?). A-mount disciple here, but my gear seems to get heavier and heavier. ;-) to drag around in a bag. love the sturdiness while using it though.

how far apart are you? if you could try (and inspect) all first, you'll know? good luck!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote darosa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2019 at 13:17
Originally posted by pegelli pegelli wrote:

I think the AF of the A99ii is better than the A7Riii


I'm not so sure about that. I have the a7M3, with firmware version 3, the same as the a7RM3, and it's incredible, also and especially with moving ob/subjects.

Personally, I would never go back to A-mount, because it is not developing anymore. There are exciting firmware updates/grades for E-mount cameras all the time. When was the last update for A-mount cameras?

At the moment, the deal may be OK, but A-mount stuff is getting cheaper all the time so I don't think it's a good deal at all for you.

If you need the money, why don't you sell the Batis and/or 55 that as you say are not important to you?
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote nandbytes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2019 at 13:52
Originally posted by darosa darosa wrote:



If you need the money, why don't you sell the Batis and/or 55 that as you say are not important to you?


He could also sell his a-mount gear which he seems to have lying around. They are still worth a bit of money but they are loosing value and/or getting harder to sell. Selling an A7RIII or any e-mount gear isn't a problem.
Took me 30 minutes to sell my 85mm f1.8 on ebay

I agree on the whole wouldn't move back to a-mount unless you are happy keeping A99II and a-mount glass for a long time (which btw I have considered lol).

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Post Options Post Options   Quote AudioDoc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2019 at 15:28
tantrix,

Sorry to hear about your health issues! Hope you recover soon. Of course no one here can really know what is the correct decision for you -- only what we would do based on our personal situations and opinions.

If money is a critical issue for you than of course selling all the gear would be the best choice. Of course that is a shame, because there so many beautiful photographs to capture in Norway!

Personally, I've got my own health issues at the moment my knees are giving me trouble (arthritis) so if I had to sell anything it would be my larger, heavier gear -- that means A mount, sadly! No way I would sell my A7III and collection of Zeiss Batis lenses. I don't know about the AF performence of the A7rIII, but the A7III is far and away the best focusing camera I personally have ever used. As good as my a99 is, the A7III is far and away superior. It depends on what you photograph. With the fantastic landscapes you have in Norway, the A7rIII and Batis 25mm should be brilliant! That is a great lens. Same for the ZA 55mm lens and the macro. You will have a hard time finding lenses as good as what you have for E mount camera in A mount (that is just my opinion of course), even though there are some great A mount lenses. But likely there won't be anything new or better coming in A mount. E mount however is booming, i.e. the new GM lenses like the 135mm f1.8.

So in summary, if you need the cash and won't be able to photograph beautiful Norway, sell your gear. If you may still want to shoot and are able, sell the A mount gear and keep the A7rIII and lenses.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote 2manycamera Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2019 at 16:24
Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

[QUOTE=darosa]

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I agree on the whole wouldn't move back to a-mount unless you are happy keeping A99II and a-mount glass for a long time (which btw I have considered lol).


That's pretty much the decision I've made, though I will remain in both A & E camps. I recently purchased a used a99 body, knowing that will lock me in for the foreseeable future, since that's where I have most of my lenses. My limited budget for equipment purchase definitely goes further with A mount. An a99II is something I will be saving for, hoping to make a purchase in about 12-18 months.

That doesn't mean I won't invest further in E mount, but I will concentrate on APS-C bodies and glass. FE glass, especially Sony branded, is so much more expensive. Sigma's series of 1.4 primes have been a marvelous addition in affordable E glass, I already own the 1.4/16 and 1.4/30 and will likely get the 1.4/56. I'm hopeful that Sony will put some new glass where their mouth is, and give us a "little A9" APS-C body in the near future.

There are still some FE lenses I am considering, Voightlander's 1.2/40 and 2/65 macro, to go with the 4.5/15 UWA that I already own and happily use on my Mark 1 A7.. But I have little interest in AF lenses. I have the 28-70 kit lens, and the 1.8/50 FE, neither of which I use that often.

So, like most "this is what I would do" posts, I hope it helps the OP
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Originally posted by tantrix tantrix wrote:

Now i am in need of some extra money...

It seems to me that someone in need of extra money would first liquidate items that have the greatest current value, which means the E-mount gear.

It also seems to me that someone in need of extra money would not find it important to own a camera system with the newest technology and most frequent updates. That kind of thing involves costs - not just for the gear itself, but perhaps also for newer/faster memory cards, a more powerful computer, better monitor, and newer software that supports newer cameras and newer lenses.

It therefore seems to me that if I were in your shoes I'd sell the E-mount gear, and use the heck out of the A-mount gear by taking photos and not concern myself about its future resale value.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote nandbytes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 May 2019 at 09:17
Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

Originally posted by tantrix tantrix wrote:

Now i am in need of some extra money...

It seems to me that someone in need of extra money would first liquidate items that have the greatest current value, which means the E-mount gear.

It also seems to me that someone in need of extra money would not find it important to own a camera system with the newest technology and most frequent updates. That kind of thing involves costs - not just for the gear itself, but perhaps also for newer/faster memory cards, a more powerful computer, better monitor, and newer software that supports newer cameras and newer lenses.

It therefore seems to me that if I were in your shoes I'd sell the E-mount gear, and use the heck out of the A-mount gear by taking photos and not concern myself about its future resale value.


except he is planning to trade it for A99II lol. He could probably sell his a-mount gear and still raise a decent sum of money at this point.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote vitor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 May 2019 at 09:33
Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

Originally posted by tantrix tantrix wrote:

Now i am in need of some extra money...

It seems to me that someone in need of extra money would first liquidate items that have the greatest current value, which means the E-mount gear.


I agree, selling the E-mount seems to be the right decision for someone needing the money. For that same reason I would not accept the deal. Only when my financial or health situation changes I would buy more gear.
Keep using your current A-mount gear, the A900 still gives stellar results.
Gear is not that important, enjoying taking photos is.

Hope you over come your current situation. Best wishes.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 May 2019 at 15:13
Originally posted by darosa darosa wrote:

There are exciting firmware updates/grades for E-mount cameras all the time.
Well, the A6000 is current and it did got a firmware update recently - but not exciting. The A7r2 I own did not get a firmware update,nor did any other (still current!) mark 2 A7 cameras. So, no, I have to disagree, there is one exciting new firmware for the mark 3 A7 cameras. Nothing else and for sure not "all the time".

If money is an issue, did you consider selling all your E-mount stuff, get a Sigma 24/2.8, Sony/Minolta 50/1.5 and a Tamron 90mm to go with your A900? That would leave you with a lot more money. (unless you need 42mp or video of course)

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How important are new modern lens designs to you?
Do you prefer a small number of really good lenses, or a large collection you can acquire at modest cost?
Does it matter how fast your collection is losing value?
How important is the size and weight of the camera to you?
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