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Zenitar 16 mm Mini Review: 17mm vs 16mm Zenitar vs 8mm Peleng

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    Posted: 26 March 2007 at 14:46
Seen asked by some people - some comparisation shots and some toughts.

About the Zenitar:



Available with M42 mount (needs extra adaptor) and now also with a A mount (does not need a extra adaptor).
Because you can buy it now with a A mount it's also now in the Dyxum lens database (more info about that is here )

Bad stuff:
* not very sharp until F 5.6 or higer
* metering from my 7D is acting usually rather "erratic" (under exposing 1 to 2 ev) when stepped down - so need to check shots.
* not really a fisheye "effect" on a 1.5 crop
* you might need to "fix" the focus ring yourself on some lensens to be able to reach infinity. ( How to is in the same post as the next "mod".) Do this *before* sanding your M42 adaptor. This may also be needed on Zenitars with a "direct" A-mount.
* with the M42 adaptor you need "mod" the lens a bit as seen here otherwise you cannot change the aperture - it stay's at 2.8 then.
* you might need to sand the M42 adaptor to reach infinity but you can now buy it with a A-mount added. see here

Good stuff:
* cheap: around 140 USD.
* reasonable sharp stepped down a bit.
* very wide angle.
* I like the colors (but that is personal).
* the modding/fixing is very easy. Just need a small screwdriver that fits.
* sanding a M42 adaptor is fun if your beer is stored in the garage where you sand.
* there is now also a version where you don't need a extra M42 adaptor but the lens comes with a direct A-mount.
* did i mention cheap?

some shots:

Minolta - AF 17-35 F2.8-4 D @ 17mm / F3.2



zenitar @ F2.8



zenitar @ F5.6



Peleng @ F3.5



Peleng @ F5.6



Full size Jpegs are found here

Zip file with raw file of the 5 pictures above are found here

all pics : CC license

More information: jvc2000 has bought the Zenitar 16mm with the A-mount for his 5D and it works good except he has a underexposure for 1EV. Some more some sample pictures here. All of them were taken with +1EV at F8.


Edited by polossatik - 29 June 2007 at 14:16
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Bob J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 March 2007 at 15:13
Thanks for that - very interesting...

If you cropped the Peleng so that the dark corners and flare are out of the frame you would still be a lot wider than the Zenitar - but I guess you would lose a lot of Pixels on the way.

Is the flare around the periphery always like that with the Peleng?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Turerkan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 March 2007 at 15:29
bob: there is going to be a bad area at the end of imaging circle with circular fisheyes, its always like that.

btw, such a comparison really deserved a seperate thread:)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote kiklop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 March 2007 at 15:45
Similar comparison can be found here with peleng compared to sigma 10-20@10mm.
And, once again .. for all fish-eye users; i really like hemi-fisheye plug-in. It's not very expensive but does a great job (far, far better than all others solutions i did tried. IMHO it is a must for fish-eye and PS owners.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Turerkan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 March 2007 at 20:27
kiklop: looked at the site of the plugin you mention and i'd really buy it i wasnt short on money.. they have great correction samples! certainly an improvement over rectlinear ones:)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Maffe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 March 2007 at 20:36
polossatik thanks for your effort!
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote ematsuda Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 March 2007 at 01:01
Here's my sample HDR with the Zen.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Johnyp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 April 2007 at 09:10
Peleng looks more and more interesting...i really want to get one now..
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Turerkan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 April 2007 at 09:15
my zenitar has arrived!!! i'll try to review it today:)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Johnyp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 April 2007 at 19:13
I personally do not see any reason to spend on Zenitar if one already has 17-35mm f2.8-4 KM/Tamron/Sigma, but if you don't then it may be worth it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Turerkan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 April 2007 at 11:15
this lens has a page in the lens database now! (since its available with A mount)

its here!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote polossatik Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 May 2007 at 12:37
Originally posted by Johnyp Johnyp wrote:

I personally do not see any reason to spend on Zenitar if one already has 17-35mm f2.8-4 KM/Tamron/Sigma, but if you don't then it may be worth it.


Indeed, I hardly use it anymore since I have the 17-35.
I'm just keeping it in case a FF body comes out, then it's again wider...
Resell value is zip anyway seen the low new cost.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote JonahJohnson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 December 2008 at 04:23
Well...I guess this might come off as kind of a stupid question, but will i get the same effect as your shots with the peleng 8mm on a my APSC a350?
or will it be less of a fisheye/less wide?


Thanks for this great post by the way.
very helpful.


Jonah.
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