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    Posted: 01 December 2019 at 09:53
The problem with batteries is that you do not use them in the same camera. How much of the improvement you notice with the A7r3 compared to the A7r2 (?) is due to the battery and how much due to more efficient electronics? I guess the A6600 compared to the A6400 is a great measurement as these cameras are largely similar.

Having said this, you can use a powerbank to power the A6400 - the smaller battery therefore is not that important if you use a tripod.
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Originally posted by DrBrown54 DrBrown54 wrote:

You are right, batteries had the same capacity but the cameras themselves were updated internally to be more efficient. So if you set a 6300 to record HD video it will be dead 10-15 minutes sooner than a 6400 and 6500. Id bet the 6600 has the same improvements on the boards as the 6400 but a bigger mAh battery.
Also obviously a fresh battery that comes with a new camera holds the charge better than one that has been used for a while.

Although I have no real experience with α6600 (apart from quickly handling at a shop), at least with α7R III the beefier NP-FZ100 is vastly better than NP-FW50 and somehow I feel it is even better than the old NP-FM500H used in most Sony A mount cameras. Of course, it may not be totally fair to compare different battery types and different cameras, especially when some are clearly older technology.
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I'll take your word on that.
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You are right, batteries had the same capacity but the cameras themselves were updated internally to be more efficient. So if you set a 6300 to record HD video it will be dead 10-15 minutes sooner than a 6400 and 6500. Id bet the 6600 has the same improvements on the boards as the 6400 but a bigger mAh battery.
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Originally posted by DrBrown54 DrBrown54 wrote:


But the 6400 battery is at least 20% better than the original 6000/6300 battery.

? as far as I know, all the a6XXX models (with the exception of the a6600) use the same NP-FW50 as the a7, a7II, a7r, a7s.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote DrBrown54 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 December 2019 at 00:36
In my case it doesnít really apply, not worried or interested in IBIS or OSS lenses. I turn the IBIS off on my a57 anyway. Im smooth with video and use tripods. Plus I just cant afford $500 more before xmas lol.

But the 6400 battery is at least 20% better than the original 6000/6300 battery. Im sure the 6600 is even better.
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote LAbernethy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 December 2019 at 00:05
Originally posted by DrBrown54 DrBrown54 wrote:

I have not considered the 6600. But at a glance the ibis and battery don't warrant an extra $500, plus I canít swing that much. I have software for stabilizing and can use a gimbal when need be.

I beg to differ. If you look at every pre-owned a6XXX listing, it usually comes with 3-6 batteries. I think on a "new" purchase, the Z battery will save you at least $250. OSS lens cost more. IBIS will save you at least $300 in comparable lenses.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote DrBrown54 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 November 2019 at 20:21
I have not considered the 6600. But at a glance the ibis and battery don't warrant an extra $500, plus I canít swing that much. I have software for stabilizing and can use a gimbal when need be.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote LAbernethy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 November 2019 at 20:04
Originally posted by balacau balacau wrote:



In a nutshell I stick with that logic and ended up ordering an a6600 with LAEA3 adapter this morning. With a combination of IBIS and advanced af system, it combines the best features of the a6400 and a6500 with the larger battery and grip.


If I were to switch, that's the way I would go.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote balacau Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 November 2019 at 12:38
I was considering something similar myself although my options were either the A7-II or the a6500.

Since I have a large number of a mount aps-c lenses, it made more sense to me to go for the cropped body. I know they work in crop mode but that's like having a land rover and never going off road with it. In my opinion anyway.

In a nutshell I stick with that logic and ended up ordering an a6600 with LAEA3 adapter this morning. With a combination of IBIS and advanced af system, it combines the best features of the a6400 and a6500 with the larger battery and grip.

Its not for everyone though and the a6400 has plenty of raving reviews. It's a capable camera in its own right.

Best of luck with whatever you decide.

Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

Out of the two the a6400 is probably the better option.

The a68 would suit your lenses and accessories better, not to mention your pocketbook. The '4D FOCUS system' works pretty good. Video isn't my thing but I have to say the a68 does manage to produce some good quality video files (1080p though), the sound is actually pretty good too.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote LAbernethy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 November 2019 at 21:31
Out of the two the a6400 is probably the better option.

The a68 would suit your lenses and accessories better, not to mention your pocketbook. The '4D FOCUS system' works pretty good. Video isn't my thing but I have to say the a68 does manage to produce some good quality video files (1080p though), the sound is actually pretty good too.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Aavo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 November 2019 at 20:58
E-mount is best with native lenses.
a6500 & 20/2.8, 24/1.8, 56/1.4, 18-135/3.5-5.6 OSS
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Originally posted by DrBrown54 DrBrown54 wrote:

The only decent lenses I have worth carrying over are the 35mm 1.8 and the 18-105mm sony is fair. I still use some olympus vintage glass on my A57 with an adapter. I have some pretty nice fast primes but that would be adapter to adapter, but as long as focus peaking still works I could survive.

The DT 35 F1.8 SAM and DT 18-135 SAM work fine on the Sony adapters. The native options are smaller and better. Neither of these cover full-frame. FWIW: Secondipity on eBay has a manufacturer refurbished A6300 + 18-135 OSS for $600.

Mechanical adapters are very inexpensive. Might as well get an E-mount to Olympus one.

Edited by QuietOC - 29 November 2019 at 20:21
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 November 2019 at 19:50
18-105? Do you mean the 18-135? That one behaves nicely with the LA-EA3 adapter, and it is a nice lightweight lens that is okay to use on the A6400 or A7II. Never used the 35/1.8, but it is a SAM lens and I am sure it also is fine with the LA-EA4.

Olympus lenses are the old manual focus OM lenses? Just get a nice adaptor for a few dollars (US$20,- for a Fotodiox adaptor over at B and H).
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