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    Posted: 07 June 2020 at 18:19
Hi guys,

I probably won't be remembered, but my wife and I started a bespoke fabric printing business about three years ago, which has taken up pretty much 100% of our time ever since. Whilst it's exceeded all our expectations the downside has been that my photography has pretty much been shelved totally as a result.

I'm curious as to the situation now with regards to the alpha mount. Has it been completely taken over now by E mount? I have an a900 as well as an a700, plus a couple of a77's (I much prefer the a900, not keen on the electronic viewfinders tbh, bit of a luddite I suppose ;-) ) Plus a full set of alpha Zeiss lenses as well as a nice Minolta 300/2.8 prime and several flashes so I'm pretty content with the system I already have and no desire to swap, I even picked up the STF recently which I've yet to try. I'm 55 this year so it'll see me out for sure.

There were always a couple of focal lengths I felt were missing though, which I doubt we'll ever see now, am I right in assuming this? Also, am I missing out on much, as a hobbyist as well as someone who uses images for our business, by not going mirrorless?

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Hi Roger,

Welcome back! And yes; you have been missed as we don't have that many UK members even now! And from such a wonderful part of the country as well (says someone who lived there for nearly 5 years before moving 'Down South').

I think your questions will generate a number of very varied answers; as far as I can see on here, then the alpha-mount isn't dead as far as users are concerned and there are plenty of people on here that still use these lenses on E-Mount bodies as well. I think the E-mount is now in the ascendance as far as new lens production is concerned but the older glass still has a strong and staunch following as far as I can see. And as for the cameras, plenty of people using the a900 and a700 still, though many (like me) moved to the a99 a little while ago. The EVF's do have their bonus though - I find interior shots much easier to produce and especially so in low light, so in that sense they are a 'winner' for me but, as with all things, it's down to personal taste at the end of the day.

It'll be good to see you back on here (workload permitting of course) and - from your posting - just what are the local lengths you seem to want? It's always an interesting debate!

Take care and best regards, Neil.

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Sony's development efforts have clearly concentrated on E mount for a while and it would not surprise that α99 II might end up being the last camera release for A mount. Even bigger surprise would be if we would see any new lenses for the older mount.

But obviously the existing A mount cameras and lenses are there and work as they have worked earlier (minus some ill effects from extended usage or possibly lack of it). So if you own extensive collection of A mount equipment, by all means use it as long as it works. Granted, α900 and α77 might be getting bit old and the age might start to show in sensor noise characteristics and AF features. If these things are bothering you, I think the most straight-forward upgrade path points first to α99 II. Sure, you have to live with EVF, but in many aspects you will get superior camera compared to your old ones.

Switching to E mount cameras might bring few extra improvements (especially in AF department), but to fully utilize these advancements you probably would want to update your lenses also to E mount native lenses and that easily gets expensive, not least because used A mount lens prices have plummeted. Sure, the A to E mount adapters exist and work ok, but there are caveats: LA-EA3 offers AF only with lenses with builtin AF motor, while LA-EA4 works with any lens but its SLT AF unit borrowed from α55 era offers limited number of centrally located AF points.
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If you don't like EVFs you won't be happy with new mirrorless cameras, stick with your A900 and enjoy it. That said, if you feel there is a hole in the A mount lens line-up don't expect it to be filled.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote skm.sa100 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 June 2020 at 20:28
Congrats on the business taking off!

My take on your situation is you can probably acquire a couple of backup bodies to last you for as long as you expect, perhaps. Lens indeed last very long so you should be good.

Also, I have to restrain myself and say "If you like OVF, have it your way." If I were to be less carefully and more buddy-style, I might be tempted to say "Why would anyone not like an EVF, my friend?". But that's a voluminous discussion on its own, I suppose.

I'm curious: what FL are you missing in the A mount?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Miranda F Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 June 2020 at 08:41
Welcome back, and sorry you've missed all the exciting 'Is A-mount dead?' threads we've had since you left.
You can go back and trawl through the threads you've missed, if you like, but I can spare you the trouble: the answer is yes, for some values of 'dead'.
A few of us who hardly ever buy new lenses are not remotely concerned about the question. My sig results from my long association with Miranda cameras, which were not only dead but obsolete for most of the years I used them, and I didn;t buy a Minolta camera until long after they stopped making them (and now I have too many).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote hrstrat57 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 June 2020 at 03:22
Nice kit you have. A mount monster gear.

Try some M42/Pentax stuff great cheap fun!

See the sub forum here for recommendations.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dodge Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 July 2020 at 18:01
Thanks for the input guys, all very interesting and informative with some great opinions. Also apologies for the late reply. We have two staff furloughed due to covid which is keeping the two of us remaining pretty busy with just time for work, eat and sleep.

I think my issue is that I loved my a700 and when I upgraded to the a900 it was just everything I wanted in a camera body, and that fondness has just stuck with me. I added the larger viewfinder eyepiece and it just felt perfect. Coupled with the Zeiss lenses it still produces images that blow me away on the rare occasion that I get it right! I suppose any shortfalls in performance aren't aparrent to me as I haven't had experience with anything more up to date.

I've plumped for what looks to be a nice condition back up a900 body today, only 8000 clicks on it and looks mint condition, so should keep me going for the forseeable future.

The lens I always envied from other line ups was a quality 24-105, something which I see is now available but not in a mount. An a mount G or CZ 24-105 f4 would have made my day, but it's not really life changing, not having it.
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Just like you, a long time a900 user, I very much did not want to move to EVF. However, the many benefits to a99ii made me take the plunge. Primary benefits were for me and my type of shooting: much better high ISO performance and much better image stabilization, both of which let me do hand held shooting much more frequently, ditching the tripod. While there were some adjustments moving from a900 to a99ii, adapting to the EVF was much quicker and more pain free than I anticipated.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote groovyone Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2020 at 06:50
Funny, I logged back in after a long time looking into any A-mount news as well. I just got back from a week at Rocky Mountain National Park with my A99, and right before I went I almost grabbed an A99 II but they are harder to come by these days. I debate the A7R series, or even the normal A7s, but I love my A mount glass and haven't been fond of using the adaptor.

Ah well, guess I'll hold onto my A99 for now. I wish the A99 II had GPS still, but this was the first time I even used it in years so no big loss, probably.
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The A900 is a wonderful camera. The central double-cross focuspoint is exceptional imho and at lower ISO's the files are wonderful. Good for you to find a nice mint back-up one!

Regarding that 24-105/4 lens you are looking for. The Sigma 24-105/4 Art might tick your boxes. Quality is up there with G and CZ lenses and it is available in A-mount. It might be a little hard to find, but there are some out there.

As you own the A77, there is no use telling you about the advantages of EVF's. Just newer ones are better then older ones. But if you prefer optical, that is what you prefer.
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Originally posted by groovyone groovyone wrote:

Ah well, guess I'll hold onto my A99 for now. I wish the A99 II had GPS still, but this was the first time I even used it in years so no big loss, probably.
At least it is still possible to mate the camera and Imaging Edge Mobile app to get geotagging, although that certainly has its caveats like the fact that if you have multiple cameras you can only connect with one at time...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Paul G Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2020 at 12:03
I had a A65 for years - still have but as backup was able to buy second hand a99ii with 1700 actuations - as brand new - have taken many more than that since last september. I wanted a short wide zoom to go with my 70-400 g ssm ii which i got second hand so finally looked at the 24-70 zeiss or the 24-105/4 sigma and got a sigma second hand for £400 approx - i like the extra zoom and use it as my normal lens - its well built sturdy and great quality. I would recommend it especially if you can get a good second hand - mine looks to have barely been used.
I miss having GPS on the A99ii as the A65 has it but if the mobile connects on the app it works ok.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MisterAndrew Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 July 2020 at 07:03
I still love my A900. I bought my A700 brand new and I liked it so much I got the A900 shortly thereafter. The A700 is still like brand new because it doesn't get used. I can't bring myself to part with it though. I bought a new A77II as well but it doesn't get used much either. The photos it takes just don't impress me like the A900's photos and I like how the A900 is so much more simple. It also feels so solid. Like a tank. I imagine the A99II is like the A77II, and I've been wanting to get one, but I doubt I would prefer it over the A900 even if it takes better images.

If there's going to be an A99III then I wager it will be announced in September since it will be 4 years since the A99II. I'll wait till then before I plan to buy another body.

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