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    Posted: 04 October 2020 at 18:12
THNX for the feedback. will look into lens aperture stop down. Might be a issue there.
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Does the lens stop down correctly?
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That's too bad Maarten, did you cross check the camera meter vs. one of your digital bodies? I agree with Matt and Neil it's more likely a meter/aperture error than a light leak. Light leaks give uneven fogging and streaks. One easy check is looking at the perforation sides of the negatives. If it's a light leak these should show some density (streaks/fogging) as well, if not the camera is still ok and it's a meter error or the aperture not closing correctly.

Other thing to check might be the shutter speeds, if the lubrication of the shutter mechanism/curtains became sticky the times may be sluggish as well, leading to overexposure by longer shutter times vs. what you set.

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It shouldn't make any difference .
A weak battery voltage might have effected the readings on older camera , but I think the electronics of these newer camera were quite happy with it .
If the power dropped below a certain level , the shutter does not fire at all .
It's all tied together being an electronic camera rather than a mechanical camera with a battery powered meter .
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Originally posted by neilt3 neilt3 wrote:

Originally posted by onsplekkie onsplekkie wrote:

Disaster stroke. When I got my 3 films developed it turned out that all were over exposed, so probably a light-leak in my Minolta XG-M


Light leaks are generally streaks of light hitting parts of the film .
Either showing up as white flashes / bands on B&W or orange flashes / bands on colour .

The the whole image is over exposed ( evenly ) that suggests over exposure when taken.


I don't remember much about XG-M cameras, but could an old weak battery give inaccurate metering, as happens on old Minolta SRTs?
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Originally posted by onsplekkie onsplekkie wrote:

Disaster stroke. When I got my 3 films developed it turned out that all were over exposed, so probably a light-leak in my Minolta XG-M


Light leaks are generally streaks of light hitting parts of the film .
Either showing up as white flashes / bands on B&W or orange flashes / bands on colour .

The the whole image is over exposed ( evenly ) that suggests over exposure when taken .
Either the aperture of the lens is sticking or you haven't set the correct ISO so the meter gives a wrong reading .
If the last time you has ISO 100 film in it and have loaded with ISO 400 this time , all shots will be two stops over exposed .

Remember , most manual focus cameras done read the DX coding on the cassette , unlike AF cameras .

Please post a couple if sample images to confirm the fault .
If a light seal has perished on the back it's easy to replace .
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Disaster stroke. When I got my 3 films developed it turned out that all were over exposed, so probably a light-leak in my Minolta XG-M
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Originally posted by waldo_posth waldo_posth wrote:

Too late - my Alpha-mount camera is already on sale on fleabay!
Sorry


What will you use with the Adox film?
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Originally posted by waldo_posth waldo_posth wrote:

Too late - my Alpha-mount camera is already on sale on fleabay!


You better get it loaded and shot before it sells then !
I suggest a 24 exposure roll .
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Too late - my Alpha-mount camera is already on sale on fleabay!
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Discontinued CHS 25 - but according to Adox you can just use standard Rodinal to develop it and they add CHS 25 "Can be developed in almost any B/W developer". No need for a special process (unlike CMS 20).

You can use CHS 25 in your Alpha camera first. Problem solved, isn't it?
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25! But CHS instead of CMS.



I always thought this to be a discussion on rules which are not yet finalized. It seems you want to leave me no other option than to sell my Alpha-mount body to get my "anything goes"!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 August 2020 at 07:07
I guess you mean Adox CMS 20 (not 25 )

You could shoot your first roll with something else. I do not want to shoot with an A-mount camera, but he, these are the rules.

BTW, the rules say "your first roll uses an alpha-mount (Minota AF) camera" it does not state the first pictures you share. It is the honour system. We trust your honest.

Edit: I hope you get that CMS 20 film scanned professionally as most scans will not show the fine grain.
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by waldo_posth waldo_posth wrote:

Why not have a really general rule that owners of Alpha-mount film cameras should include images shot with them in their postings, at one or another point of time during the challenge? Otherwise anything goes. Developing and scanning film introduces a confusing time factor. Well, it's potentially confusing only if you have to use your Alpha-gear first.

If you do not start with an A-mount camera, you start with your Pentax, and then you go with your Canon, maybe shoot a point-and-shoot or even a real camera like a Hasselblad or Bronica. And then you might not come around to shoot your A-mount camera at all. Do you have to delete all your pictures then?

Can you explain why it is confusing to start with your A-mount camera? At least, to first post the pictures of your A-mount camera? I assume you keep track somehow with what camera you took which pictures. And using your A-mount camera first makes it easier to track: if you have that one done, then anything goes.


Well, I do not develop my films. I take them to two developing services in Berlin. I have a stack of Adox CMS 25 which I would want to use up for the challenge - 36 exposures per roll. Currently I have to wait about 2-3 weeks for getting them developed - it's a special process. Then I would probably start posting some images (getting them scanned first) not earlier than mid-October if we start in September. I have also a camera loaded with 120 film - for 8 exposures. Developing takes two days (different film, different service). I could post images within a week or so. If the rule would be "the first image you take should be taken with an Alpha-mount camera" I would have no problem - since the time for developing and scanning would not have to be synchronized with posting images.
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