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    Posted: 19 September 2020 at 23:28
Hello Roger;
I apologize I missed your comment. Glad to see another was there. I'll be posting Walnut Canyon soon. I wonder if you also went there, an equally remarkable and totally opposite ruins
You called the place barren another called it desolate. To me the red stones the blue sky's were fantastic and just the wide open spaces were fantastic. Especially w the Painted Desert in the background. Goes to show we all see different

I totally missed that arrowhead. In a place like that I have so much running thru my mind. I'm lucky to get a shot off __ha ha





Neil, thanks, sorry I still don't see it
must have something to do w being there
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Hi Joseph,

Ah yes: #24.

Sometimes, an image arrives that just has 'something' about to that even the photographer responsible is challenged to understand what it is about it that others find so enchanting/beguiling/pleasing etc. his, I suspect, is just such a shot. From a purely personal viewpoint, it works so well for me due to the combination of viewpoint, light, tonal balance and detail it all combines to show us. I looked at this and it immediately 'clicked' with me - it told me all I needed to know about how these dwellings were built, how the structure locked together to give it strength but also, even then, they built with care and detail (or so it seems) to try and enhance their own experience of living there. It also shows much of the hardships they must have experienced in such a place - there is no 'soft' aspect to the image - it is most definitely what it is. The colours reflect the nature of the surroundings - no importation if stone here by the looks of it - and the shapes you show us inside this dwelling just add the to the whole scene.

So - that's my take on it and, I dare say, it will be very different to others no doubt!

Don't ever worry about showing your work and wondering of people 'get it' - if they do; fine. If they don't, well, you'll always have another image to share with them and, like '#24', that one may just surprise you!

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All right, now # 24
truthfully I don't consider much of 24. To me its just an errant photo; Sorry 🤷‍♂️
It must be because I was there
I'm sensing that being there in the moment is much different than seeing that for the 1st time on a photograph
but I'm probably missing something, acknowledging the consensus by far is in its favor

Its just that there are many more I like better

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Thank you Neil
Honestly I don't set out to make any grand statement or anything, but this time without the crowds from around the world, you're right it did become more personal. I was able to commune in my solitude much better than I ever had w these magnificent surroundings. I'm sure I was in Awe the whole time. The beautiful reds and the grand vistas and being among the ancients, possibly came across in the photos. I'll never forget. I couldn't stop taking photos

You're a Bodie person, you're A Monument Valley person, Yellowstone, your Epic Utah shoot. I consider you one of us out here. So I hope you do get back and "do" this and all the others
These photo's are just the start of some of the places I've been and photographed
All the Best____Joseph



Alpha, Thank you I like # 36 a lot too

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Thanks for the reminder of a very unusual place that I visited perhaps ten years ago. You have depicted the barren nature of the place. What I was especially surprised by was how far apart the various groupings of structures were/are. I particularly like #33 with the sunlit shaped "arrowhead" on the floor with the brick in the middle of it, Perhaps just cropping a bit off the top to eliminate the bright sky would elevate the image even more.

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Thank You, much Winston    
Originally posted by waldo_posth waldo_posth wrote:

A stunning set of images, Josef! The choice of this place for living such a long time ago still conveys some magic!

My favorites are #6, #7, #8 and #9 (vistas and zooming, again), #16, #26 and also very fascinating: #37.

But there is one image which is in a different league in terms of composition, use of contrast and color: #24 - wonderful!

Thanks for sharing these images All the best!

Thanks Harald
I imagined this might be a, your kind of place. Well, the whole Sunset Park
I really like #6, #7, and #8 also, but I liked being there much better. I'm glad you "got" the significance of #37
I'm going to discuss #24 at the end, being many of you mentioned it
All the Best____Josef


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Originally posted by momech momech wrote:

There was a time when I made it a point to visit sites like this; was at Wupatki probably 25 years ago. Thanks for the excellent images.

Be careful about wandering off trail at any of these places. All of them have been hit hard by artifact theft and the Rangers have little tolerance for people they find poking around where they shouldn't.


Thank you Roy for the wonderful compliment. Glad to hear from another who's been here
My next post is going to be Walnut Canyon, another ruins site but completely different, yet equally remarkable to my mind. I'm wondering if you had the good fortune to visit it also. They are very close to each other (in Western terms) Both are literally minutes from Flagstaff and equally unknown.
I've been there twice also so I have a lot of photos. The stairs down to the center was closed due to covid. I tried to make good use of my new zoom and my trusty Ultra Wide

I went to that site you posted and it was a wealth of information, I had not known. I'm rather new to this. Thanks

The Rangers I came across were very helpful and polite, the few I saw, but I made a point to be as mindful of place as I could be. I don't think I touched anything, not one brick.
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Originally posted by Hezu Hezu wrote:

Interesting ruins indeed, although I have to say that those modern pathway constructions certainly take little of the magic away.

Yes Hezu, I specifically wrote to that point. To do that to these ancient ruins in my mind was a travesty, no matter how well intended
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Originally posted by MichelvA MichelvA wrote:

Wow, that's a lot of photo's.. All of good quality, but many people may find it too much. I like it. #2,3,4,and 5 look rotated. TFS Joseph .

Yes Michel, thank you. I seriously ponder that myself, but then I thought, I have these photos and I just kept posting them to do justice to where I was . Some might be interested
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I like 24 a lot, but I like 36 a lot as well - in 36 you have good leading lines, strong light and texture.
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Hi Joseph,

A great documentary series, even given the number of shots you have shown us it is very much a personal history of both your visit and the times of the people long gone now.

I find these places fascinating and I should therefore thank you for the fullness of the series as these 'walk me round' the site in almost exactly the same way as you have shown us. I probably may have taken the same sort of shots as you, but I have to agree with Harald that #24 is the absolute pick of the bunch: the balance between perspective, detail and exposure is spot on and shows us so many facets o the location. I also like the longer shots of the location showing us the more desolate surroundings these lie in - just what brought these people here all those years ago is ever more a question as you look at some of these images.

I'd love to come back over there and 'do' this place (and the other thread locations you've recently shared with us) - it's a rathe fine documentary series and perhaps you should consider a small v]book to be able to thumb through the memories more readily yourself?

Thanks for sharing these and take care.

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Great set of images Joseph(despite some, most obvious in #10 and 23).
Too many to mention all favourites, but # 1, 9, 14, 16, 24 and 37 are certainly among them.
Thanks for taking us with you on this tour.
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A stunning set of images, Josef! The choice of this place for living such a long time ago still conveys some magic!

My favorites are #6, #7, #8 and #9 (vistas and zooming, again), #16, #26 and also very fascinating: #37.

But there is one image which is in a different league in terms of composition, use of contrast and color: #24 - wonderful!

Thanks for sharing these images - we here today had temperatures in the 90s - so it was a fitting subject to view! All the best!
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These old ruins are great. Thanks for sharing.
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