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    Posted: 19 November 2021 at 15:02
The 200-600 is a large, heavy lens.

I sometimes use a third-party grip extension on the A7RIV. It does have a better grip than previous models, but there is a lot of room for improvement. Ergonomics are not much of a priority for Sony.
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Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

this is my main complaint with e-mount design at the moment especially when paired with 200-600mm.


I'm sorry to resurrect an old thread, but this kept me thinking. Do you suggest 200-600 is a bad quality lens or that combination (with a7RIV) simply shows what a7 lacks in quality?

This is all a bit worrying as I am also considering a switch from a900 finally, and a7RIV was a strong contender and I was eyeing 200-600 a bit :)
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Nothing compares to the Dynax/Maxxum/Alpha 7D


The 7D must be similar to the A700. That has the best grip out of the cameras I have. I've been thinking about picking up an Alpha 7. I just found some unused film.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote nandbytes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 June 2021 at 22:32
it really irks me that Sony's usability has progressively gotten worst.

IBIS not really updated since A7II, Ergonomics not the best, grips not the best, articulating screen no where as good as class leading A77/A99, LCD interface really bad, in camera focus limiter removed, EVF blackout issue.
Yes the sensor and AF and the tech behind is really great but Sony really should start focusing on the finer things and tweak usability.
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Nothing compares to the Dynax/Maxxum/Alpha 7D
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Post Options Post Options   Quote nandbytes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 June 2021 at 22:19
the A7RIV body is generally fine where it falls down is design with the vertical grip. The VG for A900 and A99 were the best, great quality and super comfortable. So much so that I'd even go as far as saying its getting close to the levels of canikon sport bodies with integrated grip.

In case of e-mount its rather bad. Build, comfort, quality all leaves a lot to be desired.

this is my main complaint with e-mount design at the moment especially when paired with 200-600mm.
 



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Originally posted by SnowFella SnowFella wrote:

Have to say I'm finding the same with mine, might not be the same size as my "old" A99ii but the grip and button layout is making it a joy to use!

Only thing I'm finding counter intuitive is the way Sony did the rear wheel vs exposure compensation dial. In manual and auto ISO the directions are against each other if you are up against the high ISO setting. To me the exposure compensation dial should of been reversed.
I am not sure I really know what you're saying, but you can reverse the direction of the wheels.

I like the lock on the compensation dial, but on my A6400 the thumb wheel is in that location, so, I keep on trying to move it when I want to change aperture....
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Have to say I'm finding the same with mine, might not be the same size as my "old" A99ii but the grip and button layout is making it a joy to use!

Only thing I'm finding counter intuitive is the way Sony did the rear wheel vs exposure compensation dial. In manual and auto ISO the directions are against each other if you are up against the high ISO setting. To me the exposure compensation dial should of been reversed.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MisterAndrew Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 June 2021 at 02:29
Thank you. I have to comment about the ergonomics. The grip on the A7RIV is fantastic. It's better than the grip on the A900. I'm glad I got an E-mount body with the updated design. The ergonomics were one of the factors that held me away from the early E-mount bodies.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote nandbytes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2021 at 12:35
Congrats on your new camera. A7RIV is an incredible camera and in some ways one of a kind at the moment.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2021 at 10:59
You will like it - enjoy it. And keep the A900 for the analogue-digital experience
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MisterAndrew Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2021 at 01:23
I received my A7RIV today. I found it 'open box' from Best Buy at quite a considerable savings and it's in new condition. The LA-EA5 adaptor also arrived in time for me to test some of my A-mount lenses with it. Autofocus, including Eye-AF, work well with the SSM and screw drive lenses I've tested so far. I've only been taking photos of the cat, but I'm loving it so far. It's quite an upgrade coming from the A900, which I still love. The A700 & A77II will probably see even less use now, but I'm not sure I could bring myself to parting with them.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 May 2021 at 10:18
Originally posted by MisterAndrew MisterAndrew wrote:

I was comparing the specs of the A7R2, A7R3, and A7R4, and I think I would be most happy with the A7R4. I think you're right that it may be a while before there is an A7R5, and it may only be a small incremental upgrade. I don't think Sony has any incentive to offer a camera right now that has some of the A1's features for half the price. So if I buy the A7R4 right now I could keep it for a couple years before I think about upgrading again.
There is some chatter about a A7iv this year, but nothing concrete. I really like my A7r4, it is a well rounded camera, not as well rounded as the A1, but great for most people I think. Even if 60mp is bit large...

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Originally posted by Jonas A-R Jonas A-R wrote:

What I am trying to say: you donít need an awful lot of DR at low exposures (expected at high ISOs) because of the noise. If you have specular, blown highlights then it is much better to keep the ISO low and raise it when the image is developed from raw. This preserves the DR of the sensor and you will generally not have a noise penalty by raising the ISO when the image is processed (compared to shooting at the higher ISO)
Typically the light level is fixed in a scene. It is good practice to set the exposure first (aperture and shutter speed) to maximize it. The ISO will fall wherever it fits and there is not much that can be done abut it unless you change the DoF or the amount of motion blur.
Ehm? What do you mean by "you donít need an awful lot of DR at low exposures (expected at high ISOs) because of the noise."? I was not talking of Dynamic Range at low ISO settings at all. Anything over 10 stops is fine. More is always nice, but for me 10 stops is fine. I was talking about DR at high ISO. That was why I was referring to the maximum setting I am fine with. You're having a different discussion then I do, it seems.

Setting the exposure first (aperture and shutter speed) is needed to keep the best DR for your picture.

And then there is this thing: I can remove visible noise, I cannot add dynamic range

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