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Wētāpunga ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 02 September 2007 Country: New Zealand Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Posts: 6420 |
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For anyone interested I picked up one of these yesterday for videography. In principle, you can take photos with it (I haven't tried yet) but only single-shot, with or without timer.
The first thing is these are solid cameras- it has a frame that means a cage isn't always necessary and the rear of the body, accommodates fans for cooling. Solid means suprisingly heavy for its size. As it is a Sony Cinema Line Camera and not an Alpha camera, there isn't a seamless transfer of skills. It took a while to figure out (gulp) that Iris means Aperture. Oh the time I wasted looking for the aperture control function ![]() Selling points are that it includes human, animal and bird eye detection, the fans help avoid overheating, it has both S-Log 3 and the latest Sony Cinetone, and its much cheaper than the FX3 or A7Siii (the later can be a useful stills camera however). Gave it a short spin this afternoon and can confirm that Loxia lenses also make great video lenses. You can do silent rack focus nicely, and it captures a nice image. Has anyone else got one, or is thinking of getting one? |
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addy landzaat ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 22 April 2006 Country: Netherlands Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Posts: 13716 |
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I wonder there will be an Alpha version of the FX30, like the A7s3 is for the FX3. I am happy with my A6400, but I noticed the pictures are not as crisp as the ones from the A7r4 - I guess that is the AA-filter.
I am interested in your experiences. I find it hard to make the move to video next to my photography. |
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Wētāpunga ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 02 September 2007 Country: New Zealand Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Posts: 6420 |
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I guess the Sony ZV-E10 is Sony's first attempt at an APS-C video hybrid video camera, so perhaps something with the new sensor could make its way into the next A6xxx camera. The ZV-E10 really has too many limitations to be a decent video camera.
I'm finding there are parallels to still-photography. Just as you don't by your first camera and telephoto lens, and go wandering in nature taking National Geographic photos, you don't start recording award-winning films first time either. There are some elements such as lighting and composition that carry over from stills photography however. But I think you also need to pre-visualise and script things a lot more with video. At least, that's my experience. And much like photographers being told to take photos in raw format, log-formats where the footage is colour-graded later in software is recommended. We had our choice between say Lightroom, Silkypix, DxO and CaptureOne. In videography the choice for the serious sorts are Adobe Premiere, DaVinci and FinalCut Pro. Albeit iMovie and Adobe Premiere Rush are still pretty good for the less ambitious among us. Edited by Wētāpunga - 21 January 2023 at 01:34 |
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α7riii, α9, FX30- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 G; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Tamron 150-500 f5-6.7; Sony SAL 135/2.8 STF
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addy landzaat ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 22 April 2006 Country: Netherlands Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Posts: 13716 |
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The ZV-E10 is really a cheap camera I feel. Comparable to the A3000 but video oriented. But the A6 mark 1 (?) might be a "gamechanger" #overusedwords
There is a lot to learn with video: story telling, timing/rhythm, colours. I find that composition is different with video, but you can use your experience. Re. RAW and Log: yes, better IQ is supported with Log and RAW. But there is so much else to learn, that I feel that log os for later. Like I would advice an aspiring photographer to master basic composition and exposure first and then move to RAW's. |
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QuietOC ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 28 February 2015 Country: United States Location: Michigan Status: Offline Posts: 3642 |
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The ZV-E10 is the latest model in the A5100/A5000/NEX-3N range.All of those lacked viewfinders, but had zoom rockers and selfie screens.
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addy landzaat ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 22 April 2006 Country: Netherlands Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Posts: 13716 |
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![]() I guess you're right, but reading about the build quality of the ZV-E10 it feels like it is a level lower then the A5000/A5100 cameras - more like the A3000. Also, it is irrelevant to the point I was making: it is a cheap entry-level camera, somewhere between the A3000 and the A5000 or whatever, but I am looking for something like the A6000 or A6400 but newer. Basically an Alpha version of the FX-3. |
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Wētāpunga ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 02 September 2007 Country: New Zealand Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Posts: 6420 |
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It looks like there isn't a lot of interest in the Sony Fx30 yet
![]() I'd wondered, whether its compact size and familiar 'camera layout' would appeal to anyone wanting to do more serious videography from a stills-photography background. |
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α7riii, α9, FX30- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 G; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Tamron 150-500 f5-6.7; Sony SAL 135/2.8 STF
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addy landzaat ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 22 April 2006 Country: Netherlands Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Posts: 13716 |
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Was just watching the CVP review of the FX30 and there is one really advantage of the FX-30: it looks really cool! The "full frame" on the FX-3 is pathetic and the blackened connectors of the FX-30 are nicer then the normal metal ones
![]() I don't know if the familiar camera layout is a real benefit, but it seems Sony (and Canon) think it is. There is enough R&D in this camera that it would be fine to put it in a more traditional video body. Like I said elsewhere, I feel uncomfortable using stills cameras for video, I don't know if this is better. But it nicely bridges the difference between the Alpha cameras and the (true) video cameras. Link to the CVP review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfEOEssshIU |
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Wētāpunga ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 02 September 2007 Country: New Zealand Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Posts: 6420 |
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The review is pretty good and in line with what I expected. Don't expect it to have the dynamic range and top-end functionality of a camera costing about twice as much, but it does a lot of what the full-frame alternatives do, and sometimes better.
One advantage of the camera design is I can pop it into a holster bag (for cameras) and similar. So I don't need any new bags ![]() I haven't got a motorised gimbal so I was interested in the review's observation it's light enough to use on one of those easily. I'm doing some recording (for money!) tomorrow, and this could be up to 4 hours. So I like knowing I have both the unrestricted recording times (no 29 minute limit) and fans to prevent overheating. I like that the way you can set your own manual white balance is the same as the alpha cameras. I can mount a small rig top handle to it (not centred unfortunately, but I'll be shooting on a tripod). And I've attached a Small rig battery plate on the battery side, so I can use a dummy battery and a larger Sony L-series battery for more juice. So, with just that and no cage, I can mount a Sennheiser MKE600 microphone, connect that to a Zoom H5 external recorder (and feed that also into the camera) and an external monitor. I think the reviews conclusion is about right- this is a video camera for people who want to do some serious videography but balk at the cost of say an FX3 or a7Siii. And it sits in that spot very well. |
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Wētāpunga ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 02 September 2007 Country: New Zealand Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Posts: 6420 |
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Anyway, Auckland is under a State of Emergency with the flooding, so today's video work is postponed.
Was going to add that another useful feature of the FX-30 is it used a full-sized HDMI port, rather than micro-HDMI or USB. Which makes securing an HDMI cabe to the monitor more secure. And for anyone who knows my fondness of Zeiss Loxia lenses, won't be surprised if I state how good they are for video work. They can be declicked for silent aperture change, and the manual focus ring is both so well dampened with a good throw, that focus racking is actually quite easy. Plus the colours all match so swapping lenses results in the same consistent footage. |
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addy landzaat ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 22 April 2006 Country: Netherlands Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Posts: 13716 |
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Missed the Auckland floods. Hang in there, sounds serious!
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Yes, I hope you're OK there!
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Wētāpunga ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 02 September 2007 Country: New Zealand Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Posts: 6420 |
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Ngā mihi Addy and Howard,
We've never had a storm that's dropped so much water over such a large area before. Auckland airport for instance, which you may have seen flooded pictures of, is 28km to my south. And it's not quite over yet, the storm is returning. Winds are picking up and it's timed to hit again in about an hour. The emergency broadcast was sent to all our phones. We however, seem to be in a good spot- higher than the valley to just south of us where 2 people drowned, and the basin to our north. |
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