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    Posted: 10 January 2024 at 19:32
That is one the all time favorites of mine.   Along with 100 f2.
Thanks for the info. Would love to see a sample image
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I tested the a7cii with LA5 & screw drive Minolta lens and they work very good.
Now my Minolta 200 G Apo f2.8 is reborn
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jordo7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 September 2023 at 02:00
Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

The A7CR and A7CII have now been added to the Sony's Lens Compatibility website. Both support screw-driven AF with the LA-EA5 and no AF with the LA-EA4/2 just like the A1/A7IV/A7RV. A-mount Lens Compensation also seems to be the same as the original A7. Like all previous Sony APS-C mirrorless bodies, the A6700 lacks Lens Compensation support for A-mount lenses.



Thank you for the update. Great that it is still supported.   
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 4paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 September 2023 at 14:29
ja the VF on the original a7c is compact camera, for MF not good ... it bothers me after I look through another camera with a better VF, "so don't look through another camera!" LOL. I am very happy that Sony is paying attention and improved the VF!... The ZA50/1.4 works very well on the EA3 adapter with SSM, which is perfect, I keep it welded to the EA3 adapter. Although you are correct I am silly because I talk about small lenses, and the 55 and 50G are small, the 50G even has aperture/focus hold/MF switch!! the ZA50 has focus hold and MF switch but no aperture ring.

Thanks for confirming the EA5 does AF better than the Monster Adapter!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 September 2023 at 10:43
Originally posted by 4paul 4paul wrote:

Now that Anthony has shaken my world view LOL ... to elaborate ... I did the EA4r Monster Adapter board swap, and it's great, in some uses. I have become accustomed to the automatic lens corrections in DxO, and DxO doesn't allow manual application of lens/sensor corrections, and the Monster Adapter corrupts the EXIF enough that lens corrections don't get applied.

I could exiftool everything, but changing lenses makes that a very annoying task. So the native EA5 adapter would work better for me. Also the 100/2.8macro RS hunts on the Monster Adapter, intermittently, at all focus distances, which is a shame, it's a fantastic lens.


I sold the LA-EA4 that I modified, but Lens Compensation was working with at least one lens (the 28mm F2.8) with whatever firmware was available at that time. It is too bad if that wasn't extended to every lens--there is not that many screw driven lenses with Lens Compensation. AF certainly works much better with the LA-EA5 except the things that don't work such as the first-party teleconverters.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 September 2023 at 08:30
How important is the viewfinder to you?

The old A7c had a 2.36 million dot OLED like the new one, but only a .59 magnification while the new one has a .7 magnification. The same as in my A6400, it is not great, but good enough. The viewfinder of the A7r5 is much better at 9.44 million dot OLED and a .9 magnification. For manual focus that would be a benefit.

If the A6700 had a better EVF I probably would have upgraded my A6400 as that is the only downside atm of that camera.

And replace your ZA50 with the wonderful Sony/Zeiss 55/1.8 or the even smaller Sony 50/2.5G for that mind control AF.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 4paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 September 2023 at 04:08
Now that Anthony has shaken my world view LOL ... to elaborate ... I did the EA4r Monster Adapter board swap, and it's great, in some uses. I have become accustomed to the automatic lens corrections in DxO, and DxO doesn't allow manual application of lens/sensor corrections, and the Monster Adapter corrupts the EXIF enough that lens corrections don't get applied.

I could exiftool everything, but changing lenses makes that a very annoying task. So the native EA5 adapter would work better for me. Also the 100/2.8macro RS hunts on the Monster Adapter, intermittently, at all focus distances, which is a shame, it's a fantastic lens.

So the Petapixel (nee DPReview nee CameraStore) fellas in their video review advertised KEH as a new Sony dealer with a discount with a trade in ... I could unload my a7c and maybe a7ii (which is dangerous with the EA4r) a900 a68 a300 etc LOL, but do I land on the new "C" cameras, or go straight to a7Rv (now with a direct $400USD discount, for it's "correct" MSRP of $3500USD), as the "last camera I will ever need" LOL?

If I had an extra kidney, I would have a99ii for A-mount lenses, GFX50sii for manual lenses (the IBIS body stabilization was soooooo much better than Sony cameras, but reviewers seem bullish that IBIS is actually much better now in the new C cameras, the IBIS in the a7c is no better than the a7ii), OM-1 + the sex machine 150-400TC, Leica Q3 ... good thing I don't have extra kidneys LOL.

Amusingly, I have NO full-frame E-mount lenses ... for "event" type photography I use Minolta/Zeiss A-mount lenses and let the lens corrections in DxO sweeten them up to modern, including reversing the sensor stack AA/OLPF.

As much as I have in the past bad-mouthed the 55-210, on a nex camera it almost qualifies as "micro 4/3" as small as it is; "ultimate image quality" sounds like a nice place to visit, but I don't think I would live there. Although when I force myself to lug the ZA135/ZA50 around I'm not disappointed, so maybe I should try a state-of-the-art lens with Mind Control AF and all that. The out-of-the-box look of Minolta lenses (all SR mount through AF RS generation, even a not-pretty lens like the Not Beercan 70-2103.5-4.5 RS) is perfect for "nature" photos, which is why I am so fond of them. Not so perfect for "event", certainly not "architecture", very good for "portrait" except for some subjects, ... the MFD across the room is a big problem .... (shrug)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 4paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 September 2023 at 14:42
I am astonished ... thanks for pointing that out, not that I didn't believe you, I trolled through the website and somehow the two new cameras will screw drive autofocus old lenses with the EA5. Even more puzzling, the ZV-E1 camera also fully supports the EA5 screw drive AF, which is even more astonishing ...

Maybe Sony did something nice for a change ??? My worldview is shaken! LOL ....

hmmm, Sony deserves credit for this, I dismissed these cameras, now I am thinking....
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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 September 2023 at 21:43
The A7CR and A7CII have now been added to the Sony's Lens Compatibility website. Both support screw-driven AF with the LA-EA5 and no AF with the LA-EA4/2 just like the A1/A7IV/A7RV. A-mount Lens Compensation also seems to be the same as the original A7. Like all previous Sony APS-C mirrorless bodies, the A6700 lacks Lens Compensation support for A-mount lenses.

Edited by QuietOC - 06 September 2023 at 21:49
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mestari Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 August 2023 at 21:48
Wouldn't it be a simple mistake? I can't believe they would simply leave out LA-EA5 support.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Hezu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 August 2023 at 21:35
Originally posted by 4paul 4paul wrote:

I didn't see mention of the EA5 adapter, again that's me wanting to use the equipment incorrectly. There's no more backward compatibility with A-mount.
Most likely this is just a niche feature that requires no mention, I see no reason why they would take away compability with existing accessories.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 4paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 August 2023 at 18:06
There's a line about "with 7.0-step [NOTE] iv optical 5-axis in-body image stabilization", I have no idea what that means.

Clearly these are "creator" models and the fact that I use one for still photos means nothing to Sony, I'm the one using it incorrectly.

The viewfinder is an abomination, but again, no one is supposed to use the VF. ... WAIT the specs say magnification on the new cameras is .70, on the original it was .59 ... but the only difference is the Eye Relief, now 19.6mm was 17.5mm "from the eyepiece frame" ... did they change the diopter to make the same screen look bigger? hmmmm...

The R version with the 5 year old 61MP sensor is a real head scratcher, unless Sony has so much sensor material laying around they can make something silly. Obviously if I had an extra kidney to sell I could finance it LOL.

I didn't see mention of the EA5 adapter, again that's me wanting to use the equipment incorrectly. There's no more backward compatibility with A-mount.

I think the NOTE is: "
7.0 stops (based on CIPA standard. Pitch/yaw shake only. With FE 50mm F1.2 GM lens mounted. Long exposure NR off.)"
... for the original a7c it was
"Five stops (based on CIPA standard. Pitch/yaw shake only. With Planar T* FE 50-mm F1.4 ZA lens mounted. Long exposure NR off.)"
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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 August 2023 at 16:38
There is no mention of Image Stabilization with Body–Lens Coordinated Control with either of these cameras or the A6700. So far that feature has been limited to the ILCE-7RM5 and ZV-E1 with only 5 Sony FE OSS lenses.

Edit: Sony added both new A7C cameras to the support page for this feature, so it looks like they do support it:

https://support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/www/cscs/function/compatibility.php?fnc=1002&area=gb&lang=en&ref=1

And the A6700 is missing.

Edited by QuietOC - 06 September 2023 at 21:37
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 August 2023 at 16:29
Oh, the pink extender in the box for the A7cR is the stupidest thing ever. Not that the thing exists (as some people keep on complaining about it) but if you want a bigger body, well, why not buy that bigger body? Stupid.
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