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    Posted: 10 April 2024 at 16:30
Originally posted by Howard_S Howard_S wrote:

Originally posted by Cheveuxroux Cheveuxroux wrote:


A new scanner would make posting photos on the Dyxum website much easier.


It might be worth checking out Vuescan - it supports a massive range of devices: https://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/supported-scanners.html.


I checked for the HP 5370 scanner in my posession.
A driver page is listed
https://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/hp_deskjet_5370.html#technical-information

Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:


Vuescan has already been recommended, it's a superb bit of software and has worked with every scanner I have tried it with - old and new, flatbed and film.

However, you could also consider a light box and digitise using a camera - my A7Riv produces higher resolution copies than any film scanner and so much faster. I have a, A3 LED light box that serves my needs well (£25-30) - beware of cheap A5 ones, the one I got was useless - just an array of dots.


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I have experimented with all sorts, from a home built lego arrangement through a "pixalator" magnetic contraption that was an improvement but still not good enough to eventually Andrew Clifforth's Essential Film Holder which is a joy to use for both 35mm and 120 film. (see here my setup from the film challenge thread).

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While I intend to try the vuescan software, I vividly recall the slow process of scanning; especially as it is the old USB 2.0 bus width.

Brian's post showing his copystand setup reminds me of one I buit for my Minolta X370 which had flash holders on each side.

The film copy light source from my HP could be used with an old enlarger column.

Salvation Army stores were my source for recently purchased Besseler 23 and Omega B66 enlargers.

I could remove and store the head from the Omega B66 and utilize the column.

Looks like another good reason to purchase a Sony full frame mirrorless camera this year.

Thanks all for the valuable information!

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Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

However, you could also consider a light box and digitise using a camera - my A7Riv produces higher resolution copies than any film scanner and so much faster. I have a, A3 LED light box that serves my needs well (£25-30)

+1 I have the same arrangement and the workflow is a dream, with one condition: How the negative strip is held under the a7RM4A (with FE 90 f2.8 macro lens) and on the lightbox is crucial.

I have experimented with all sorts, from a home built lego arrangement through a "pixalator" magnetic contraption that was an improvement but still not good enough to eventually Andrew Clifforth's Essential Film Holder which is a joy to use for both 35mm and 120 film. (see here my setup from the film challenge thread).

Brian


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Originally posted by Cheveuxroux Cheveuxroux wrote:

What I actually will need next is a decent film scanner for my photos as my HP scanner is 20 years old and its XP software is definitely out of date.

A new scanner would make posting photos on the Dyxum website much easier.


Vuescan has already been recommended, it's a superb bit of software and has worked with every scanner I have tried it with - old and new, flatbed and film.

However, you could also consider a light box and digitise using a camera - my A7Riv produces higher resolution copies than any film scanner and so much faster. I have a, A3 LED light box that serves my needs well (£25-30) - beware of cheap A5 ones, the one I got was useless - just an array of dots.
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Originally posted by Cheveuxroux Cheveuxroux wrote:


A new scanner would make posting photos on the Dyxum website much easier.


It might be worth checking out Vuescan - it supports a massive range of devices: https://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/supported-scanners.html.
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Originally posted by neilt3 neilt3 wrote:



Screens for the 7000AF & 9000AF come up on eBay , but you have to look very carefully at them .
When you bought a screen new , you put it in your camera .
The original screen was then put in the case and the box your optional screen came in.


If I found the original factory installed focus screen from my X-700, would it fit in a Maxxum 7000 or Maxxum 9000?

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Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:



Perhaps few are actually buying 7000s - which would bring the price down nicely.

I bought my first out of curiosity, probably with my first 35-70/4. Then bought a boxful (for £5) to get a 'gold' one (the 2,000,000 special) and, as a bonus, a couple with AAA battery holders. I think I got another when I bid very low on one with a 28/2.8 and no one else bid. Consequently I have far too many - mostly untried (a film costs more than the camera).   At least I have taken a few off the market for a while.


I never intended to buy Maxxum cameras or lenses.
The price of MD lenses was much higher than A mount and I realized I could buy both a Maxxum camera body and at least one lens for the price of one MD lens.

My initial purchase was a Maxxum 9000 outfit with the leather camera cover, Minolta AF 50mm F1.4, Minolta AF 70-210 F4 Lenses and the 4000AF flash from Salvation Army.

I have three Maxxum 7000 bodies that arrived with prime lenses.

Further purchases of Maxxum bodies with lenses gradually added to my collection starting with the 7000i in order of production ending with a 7xi and then a 9xi that arrived DOA with a 100mm macro for the same price charged for just a lens locally.

Fortunately, online information about dissipating a built-up charge in the camera brought the 9xi back to life.

Latest addition is a Maxxum 7.

I don't know if I will decide to buy a Maxxum 9 as I have been busy locating spare bulk film loaders and reloadable 35mm metal film cartridges so I can use monochrome film in the cameras.

Still need to buy fifty-foot rolls of monochrome film.

Thankfully, I never threw out my film processing equipment.

What I actually will need next is a decent film scanner for my photos as my HP scanner is 20 years old and its XP software is definitely out of date.

A new scanner would make posting photos on the Dyxum website much easier.

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I see your point regarding the pro-cameras and had to look up the US market equivalent Nikons for the F501 (N2020 1986) and F301 (N2000 1985).

The examples listed for sale have asking prices that either match or exceed the Minolta Maxxum 7000 prices.

Upon further thought, I must ask if people are buying the Maxxum 7000 cameras simply as a part of a collection or for taking photos.

The Maxxum 7000 examples I purchased were attached to prime lenses that I wanted and did not plan to acquire more than one example for use as my purchases are for taking photos rather than collecting.

A shame that I cannot order view screens, though my Maxxum 9000 doesn't seem difficult to focus manually despite the factory setup.


Perhaps few are actually buying 7000s - which would bring the price down nicely.

I bought my first out of curiosity, probably with my first 35-70/4. Then bought a boxful (for £5) to get a 'gold' one (the 2,000,000 special) and, as a bonus, a couple with AAA battery holders. I think I got another when I bid very low on one with a 28/2.8 and no one else bid. Consequently I have far too many - mostly untried (a film costs more than the camera).   At least I have taken a few off the market for a while.
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I have absolutely no idea what I did with mine for a900, it was also replaced with one that allowed for easier manual focusing (for my STF).

I still have AF 50 1.4, the original version. I could do something with that :)
And I gave my beercan to my mum, but this can be lent to me. But my oldest Minolta body is 800si.
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Originally posted by neilt3 neilt3 wrote:

Originally posted by Bob J Bob J wrote:

Originally posted by Cheveuxroux Cheveuxroux wrote:


A shame that I cannot order view screens, though my Maxxum 9000 doesn't seem difficult to focus manually despite the factory setup.



Look out a screen for a Pentax MX, very close in size to the 9000/7000 split focus screen, just needs a mm or so taken off the back end...


Screens for the 7000AF & 9000AF come up on eBay , but you have to look very carefully at them .
When you bought a screen new , you put it in your camera .
The original screen was then put in the case and the box your optional screen came in.

Typically, when you see a screen advertised , it's not the one advertised in the box and listing , but the original "G" one out of the camera being sold twenty to forty yeats later .

There's a few about now listed as clear , grid or PM ( split prism ) , but their all the same original screen supplied with the camera .

I imagine screens in cases from other camera brands are the same .

Buyer beware .


Oh, definitely Caveat Emptor!

You confirmed my suspicions regarding focus screens and the reason I regret not being able to order from Minolta.

I actually had the focus screen replaced for a different version on my newly purchased X-700 by the Minolta Factory Service Facility in Rolling Meadows, Illinois before Minolta shuttered the location.

The original factory installed focus screen is stored in the Minolta case; hopefully not lost as I do not recall seeing it when I removed my X-700 from storage last year prior to buying Maxxum equipment.

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Originally posted by Bob J Bob J wrote:

Originally posted by Cheveuxroux Cheveuxroux wrote:


A shame that I cannot order view screens, though my Maxxum 9000 doesn't seem difficult to focus manually despite the factory setup.



Look out a screen for a Pentax MX, very close in size to the 9000/7000 split focus screen, just needs a mm or so taken off the back end...


Screens for the 7000AF & 9000AF come up on eBay , but you have to look very carefully at them .
When you bought a screen new , you put it in your camera .
The original screen was then put in the case and the box your optional screen came in.

Typically, when you see a screen advertised , it's not the one advertised in the box and listing , but the original "G" one out of the camera being sold twenty to forty yeats later .

There's a few about now listed as clear , grid or PM ( split prism ) , but their all the same original screen supplied with the camera .

I imagine screens in cases from other camera brands are the same .

Buyer beware .
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Originally posted by Bob J Bob J wrote:

Originally posted by Cheveuxroux Cheveuxroux wrote:


A shame that I cannot order view screens, though my Maxxum 9000 doesn't seem difficult to focus manually despite the factory setup.



Look out a screen for a Pentax MX, very close in size to the 9000/7000 split focus screen, just needs a mm or so taken off the back end...


Excellent idea!

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Originally posted by Cheveuxroux Cheveuxroux wrote:


A shame that I cannot order view screens, though my Maxxum 9000 doesn't seem difficult to focus manually despite the factory setup.



Look out a screen for a Pentax MX, very close in size to the 9000/7000 split focus screen, just needs a mm or so taken off the back end...
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Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:



The sheer numbers surviving must help keep prices low, but it's not the only reason -............AF just isn't that popular with those after the vintage experience. And, if you are looking for AF, then the 7000 is far from the optimum choice, it's a quirky, oddball camera and there's that LCD bleed.

In short, the attraction of the 7000 is that it's a landmark camera (especially for A-mount afficionados), not that it's a great camera.

As for the F3, it's not a fair comparison - look at the Minolta XK for instance, still selling for hefty F3-like prices. Top of the range pro cameras fetch a premium price. The F-501 is closer to a 7000 - Nikon's nearest equivlent - much more of a conventional SLR - and considerably more expensive to buy today (though a lot cheaper than an F3).


I see your point regarding the pro-cameras and had to look up the US market equivalent Nikons for the F501 (N2020 1986) and F301 (N2000 1985).

The examples listed for sale have asking prices that either match or exceed the Minolta Maxxum 7000 prices.

Upon further thought, I must ask if people are buying the Maxxum 7000 cameras simply as a part of a collection or for taking photos.

The Maxxum 7000 examples I purchased were attached to prime lenses that I wanted and did not plan to acquire more than one example for use as my purchases are for taking photos rather than collecting.

A shame that I cannot order view screens, though my Maxxum 9000 doesn't seem difficult to focus manually despite the factory setup.








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Originally posted by Cheveuxroux Cheveuxroux wrote:

I presume prices are low on Minolta 7000 cameras due to the sheer number of surviving examples and due to Minolta never quite managing to gain professional status.

In contrast, Prices paid for Nikon F3 bodies in dilapidated condition are shocking.

But that is just my two centimes worth.



The sheer numbers surviving must help keep prices low, but it's not the only reason - a working Canon AE1 (an older camera that sold in similar numbers) goes for double the price or more. I suspect that folk who buy film bodies today are up for the full manual focus experience, AF just isn't that popular with those after the vintage experience. And, if you are looking for AF, then the 7000 is far from the optimum choice, it's a quirky, oddball camera and there's that LCD bleed.

In short, the attraction of the 7000 is that it's a landmark camera (especially for A-mount afficionados), not that it's a great camera.

As for the F3, it's not a fair comparison - look at the Minolta XK for instance, still selling for hefty F3-like prices. Top of the range pro cameras fetch a premium price. The F-501 is closer to a 7000 - Nikon's nearest equivlent - much more of a conventional SLR - and considerably more expensive to buy today (though a lot cheaper than an F3).
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