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    Posted: 06 April 2025 at 22:43
I have been using my A100 for the past few days, shooting images for the April Foolishness. I have noticed that the view in the viewfinder is offsent from that captured. The centre of the viewfinder appears about 2/3rd down the captured image.

It makes for interesting shooting having to allow for this!

The A100 is not a camera I use very often, but I can't recall this issue from past shoots.

I am wondering if anyone else has experienced this and, if so, is there a solution. My guess is that the mirror is a little off alignment, mainly because I can't think of another reason.

To illustrate the problem: the top of the hydrant marker here was just out of frame in the viewfinder.


 



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I suspect that the cameras images stabilisation has developed a fault , leaving the sensor off centre.
It's not uncommon , especially with earlier cameras .
My a100 is still fine though .

With steady shot on , does the camera buzz on startup as it should ?
The sensor should shake for it's anti dust function , using the same components to move the sensor as it uses for the steady shot .

If you set the camera to a long exposure and hold the camera body to your ear , you should hear a faint buzzing noise as the sensor is moving around.

Finally , set the camera to sensor cleaning mode and look at the sensor .
I think you'll find it off centre .

It's unlikely to be the viewfinder , focus screen or mirror at fault .
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Thanks Neil, the camera makes quite a racket when starting up, no need to hold it to my ear. If the sensor is off-centre is there any simple way of correcting the problem or is it an IBIS replacement?

I should note that the stabilisation seems to be working, I need it shooting with the 200mm on APS-C!
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Think you will find that the IBIS is broken and that the sensor has dropped down as far as it will go if you remove the lens and lock the mirror up.
Since the image is recorded "upside down" if the sensor drops the resulting image will shift upwards compared to what you see in the viewfinder.

Somewhere deep down in the archives here there's a thread where the OP "fixed" his broken IBIS by opening the camera and inserting shims under the sensor to raise it up = no more IBIS but atleast it centered the sensor back to it's normal position.
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Was there a new firmware released that added a auto frame function? It works perfectly

I find the broken IBIS theory convincing. It is a bummer!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Phil Wood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 April 2025 at 14:23
Thanks Sonwfella - makes sense.

Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:


I find the broken IBIS theory convincing. It is a bummer!


Sadly I have to agree - but it's still usable, I had plenty of decent images to choose from for the Foolishness - and, I have plenty of other bodies. On the plus side, it seems my hands are steadier than I had thought.

 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote neilt3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 April 2025 at 15:16
An easy way to check image stabilisation with your 200mm lens it to take a shot at a relatively long shutter speed , one with I/S on , and one with it off , hand held.
Let's say around 1/25th second .
One should be very different than the other .
If there both the same , then image stabilisation isn't working.
Try a few shutter speeds .
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Phil -- Do you know if the camera was ever dropped? I think this malfunction sometimes occurs after being dropped. I've never had the problem on any of my myriad of A-mount bodies, but I have also never dropped any.

There is another "buried" thread about reversing the problem by giving the camera body an intentional wallop to reverse the effect. Success on doing this seemed very hit and miss, and the problem sometimes returned. So I'm not really advocating that!
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Originally posted by robberly12 robberly12 wrote:

Phil -- Do you know if the camera was ever dropped? I think this malfunction sometimes occurs after being dropped. I've never had the problem on any of my myriad of A-mount bodies, but I have also never dropped any.

There is another "buried" thread about reversing the problem by giving the camera body an intentional wallop to reverse the effect. Success on doing this seemed very hit and miss, and the problem sometimes returned. So I'm not really advocating that!


I haven't dropped is as far as I recall - but it was a cheap ebay purchase and I've barely used it before the last few days. I suspect it came this way.

The real question is which direction to wallop it? If it kills it, it would be a shame, but no great loss.
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Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

Originally posted by robberly12 robberly12 wrote:

Phil -- Do you know if the camera was ever dropped? I think this malfunction sometimes occurs after being dropped. I've never had the problem on any of my myriad of A-mount bodies, but I have also never dropped any.

There is another "buried" thread about reversing the problem by giving the camera body an intentional wallop to reverse the effect. Success on doing this seemed very hit and miss, and the problem sometimes returned. So I'm not really advocating that!


I haven't dropped is as far as I recall - but it was a cheap ebay purchase and I've barely used it before the last few days. I suspect it came this way.

The real question is which direction to wallop it? If it kills it, it would be a shame, but no great loss.

I think I saw at least one post where they advocated hitting it with the palm of your hand against the bottom of the body. I'm not sure if that was for a particular effect, or just a solid place where you hopefully wouldn't cause other damage. As I said, I'm not really advocating this; just a possible long-shot if you aren't too concerned about additional damage.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote LAbernethy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 April 2025 at 18:31
As I recall, the wallop was to recenter the sensor. I don't believe it helped the "SteadyShot". Once centered people would "fix" (hold) the sensor in place with adhesive, to improve framing through the OVF.
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