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ankit
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 January 2008 at 00:28 |
Someone on dpreview who seemed to "know" stuff also suggested it is not called A300. Argh... I hate this guessing game! Edited by ankit - 09 January 2008 at 00:28 |
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PMac
Senior Member Joined: 12 April 2007 Country: Australia Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Posts: 2144 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 January 2008 at 00:48 |
Trying to look at everything Sony has said in the past and their recent camera strategy, the market and these photos what do you get?
Well, the A700 at $US1400 - a solid, traditional pro-am camera - no live view but an interesting statement that Sony didnt included this feature as it couldnt be done properly in this type of body. The A200 at $700, A solid, traditional low end camera based heavily upon the previous generation and interestingly described as a "mainstream" camera. Also hark back to the press release from Sony describing their new chip: “Readout mode: All-pixel scan mode (12 bit:10.39 frame/s)” I'm reminded of an Australian comedian I saw once who said he hated his mother referring to the "good" scissors as he always felt this term implied the existance of the "evil" scissors somewhere in the house. Taking Sony's statements they appear to clearly imply the existance of another way of doing things in a "non" mainstream kind of way. So imagine a non. mainstream camera configured to make full use of live view. Now give it a price tag of $US1000 and consider the market, technology and where Sony could go - what would make the A200 Ultra/A300/Fred special. Here's my guesses at the headline feature set- we'll see if I'm right come PMA I suspect: 1. Live view (obvious) 2. EViL 3. A200 body but many A700 internals – so 12 MP CMOS sensor, new Bionz chipset (whereas A200 based on A100 chip) 4. possibly an extremely high frame rate say 10 fps at 12MP, 20+ at reduced resolutions (see the new 60FPS casio). A real wildcard and something I doubt but would really shake up the market would be a movie mode. |
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kiklop
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 January 2008 at 01:08 |
Just by looking at very few threads here carefully, and by following some external links provided by some members one is able to know what is to be expected. Of course, the problem is that the noise/signal ratio is high :) But .. what count the most is that we are finally at the stage where Sony has managed to prepare alpha system future and from now on we can expect a very dynamic future that may cover most needs. The problem however is ... that too many people may spend too much time reading about cameras instead of using them Happy shooting ! |
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mdecorte
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 January 2008 at 01:14 |
Hmmm, compared to the a200, there seem to be two new buttons on this camera.
- On the back by the AEL button that is a box with arrows pointing out - On the top in front of the drive button. From the picture I can't see much except it's there. |
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Michael
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PMac
Senior Member Joined: 12 April 2007 Country: Australia Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Posts: 2144 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 January 2008 at 01:18 |
When the A200 appeared a lot of people wondered at a battery grip for such a low end camera. Maybe this implementation and the live view was the driving force behind that decision.
(yeah I know the grips are slightly different) |
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Riccati
Senior Member Joined: 08 February 2006 Status: Offline Posts: 174 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 January 2008 at 01:31 |
Ahh, classic stuff. Not to nitpick or go too far off topic, but that was Tony Martin, and he's actually a kiwi. Although it was on an Australian TV show (the Late Show). |
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a700, 7D, CZ16-80, 17-35D, 24-105D, 20/2.8, 24/2.8, 35/2, 70-210/4.
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PMac
Senior Member Joined: 12 April 2007 Country: Australia Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Posts: 2144 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 January 2008 at 02:03 |
You are right he was a kiwi but as usual if he's any good (and he is) we Australians will claim him.
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Hoffy
Senior Member Joined: 30 December 2006 Country: Australia Location: Australia Status: Offline Posts: 2056 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 January 2008 at 02:20 |
But all good Kiwi's are adopted as Australians. (BTW, you guys can have Russell Crowe back...)
From reading the rest of the thread, I have determined:
I am currently contimplating what an EVil interchangeable lens camera means to me. As long as it means DSLR like performance I would seriously consider it. The current LV technology out there is a crap. If this addresses the issues, then I think Sony are on a winner |
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Swede101
Senior Member Joined: 03 October 2007 Country: Sweden Location: Gothenburg Status: Offline Posts: 1355 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 January 2008 at 02:27 |
I remember that Sony a couple of months ago (at the A700 release) stated that the Live View technology wasn't yet good enough to be put into an advanced amateur model camera like the A700. But as you said - A200 is clearly a lower spec camera - so appearently they thought they could throw it into this "A250" (or whatever). Of course I wasn't invited to the release party, I read about it here on Dyxum... :-) |
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Gunnar
A77 II; A550; D7D w VC-7D; D7; 500si Super w DB (Unused); NEX-3 20/2,8; 50/1,7 Old; 50/1,8; 28-80 (Unused); 28-80 D; 28-105 RS; 135/2,8; 500/8 Reflex; Tamron 90/2,8 Macro 1:1 (V2); 5600HS(D) |
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albnok
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 January 2008 at 02:32 |
The Canon 350D has a vertical grip and is the lowest of the Canons. So why not the lowest of the Sonys? Since this is not a D40/X competitor anyway.
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Swede101
Senior Member Joined: 03 October 2007 Country: Sweden Location: Gothenburg Status: Offline Posts: 1355 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 January 2008 at 02:33 |
Me too! |
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Gunnar
A77 II; A550; D7D w VC-7D; D7; 500si Super w DB (Unused); NEX-3 20/2,8; 50/1,7 Old; 50/1,8; 28-80 (Unused); 28-80 D; 28-105 RS; 135/2,8; 500/8 Reflex; Tamron 90/2,8 Macro 1:1 (V2); 5600HS(D) |
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ADub128
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 January 2008 at 02:38 |
I completely agree with Kiklop. It's great to see a complete Sony line-up that is arguably very competitive with the entrenched SLR players. It's so nice to have so many camera feature and price point alternatives for my A-mount lenses, something Minolta could not pull off. The King is dead (Minolta). Long live the King (Sony)! Thanks to Sony, we can stay in "Alphaland". We're not *forced* to move to Nikonland, Canonland, Olympusland, Pentaxland, etc. to continue to enjoy our hobbies and professions. It's great to be able to choose what works best for *you* -- pick orange (me and others here), yellow (dCap, gvknight), red (H20Boy). Options, options, options ... awesome. Now go take some pictures ... there are still over 20 days in January Madness! |
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Magnus Wedberg
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 January 2008 at 03:18 |
Well well, this makes me think my 2011 predictions are arriving even faster than I thought. Alpha Handycam, anyone? ;-)
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Shaocaholica
Senior Member Joined: 14 July 2006 Country: United States Location: United States Status: Offline Posts: 1884 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 January 2008 at 03:37 |
Well the RED camera system is already here and its got a 12MP Super35 size sensor, can take SLR lenses with an adapter and can capture 12MP at 60fps to a hard disk array using standard protocols. Still, its pricey but the market and technology have already arrived :) |
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