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    Posted: 01 February 2008 at 06:00
Just a chat here...maybe it's a hopeless cause. I'd really, really love to shoot with that CZ 24-70 f2.8 that just came out. Only, I'd want to put it on my Maxxum 9.
Does anyone know of any shop still doing the SSM / ADI upgrade? I talked with Sony today, who just turned me over to Precision Camera, who said they'd email me in a couple days when they found out if they could still do it or not. I'm afraid this may be the beginning of the end...
Don't want it to be, but...
Please tell me somewhere out there is some SSM/ADI updated circuit boards for our Maxxum 9s!
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Jed,

1. Don't send your cam to Precision for any reason. Google for horror stories.

2. No shops do this unless you have the board (which was never for sale). I bought one on eBay on an off chance. And their expertise is falling by the day for lack of exercise.

3. Your hope is to set up an eBay search (and / or monitor KEH) for a bum 9 with the board - or better yet swap yours for a mint one off eBay with the feature. I know you're attached to the one you got, but ones for sale deserve a good home too :)

4. Most cost effective solution is to get a Maxxum 7, which has this built in. It's no 9 in the VF and build department, but it has a better AF and save for Nikon F5 in some respects, is the most beautifully overengineered AF body to-date.
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Thanks for your assessment; pretty much the same conclusions I've come to as well.
Do have a 7 body - I've had at least 5 of them over the years...a very good camera, and perhaps I will just stick with it in the end. But the 9 really is something special. Different in a way. Feels very classic, and fits the hand just right. It's also a lot quieter than the 7 - at least the one I have is.

So...maybe I just won't ever get an SSM lens, or maybe I'll talk myself into going with the 7 for the long run - guess it will depend on why I put my $$$.   
Thanks,
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saba - sieben - siete - chiffre - sette - sete - sju

Oh ! and in case I forgot to mention it - 7
I shot some film yesterday. I was told last night that film was dead so today I shot some more.
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Welll.. I tried to find out about the ssm upgrade on this side of the pond. I contacted Sony. They directed me to the camera support centre in Germany, which in turn directed me back to Sony support Netherlands which in turn insisted I contact Ger....
Well.. you get the point.
They could have simply said: no, we don't do the upgrade any more. Now I still don't know anything. Are any of the German members aware if the upgrade is still being done in the Bremen repair center?
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Have asked Camera Repair Workshop here in UK. Will advise if I get any response.
I shot some film yesterday. I was told last night that film was dead so today I shot some more.
 



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Last info I have is that the upgrade can still be done in Bremen.
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Jed,

When I checked last summer with Runtime in Bremen, they still had the parts and the tech with the expertise to make this update. You can only send it within Germany to Runtime -- they won't accept units sent from outside Germany. I was going to send mine to them, when we were visiting family last Fall, but my wife "nixed" it -- she doesn't see eye-to-eye with me on camera expenditures. The price is 150 Euros which must be about 217 USD. I believe Hotwire had his done in Canada last year for 325-350 CD.

It seems that when KM closed the US service facility in NJ all update parts and the Tech/s that did the update vanished. Man it would be nice if one of those techs and the parts would magically reappear and come to our rescue!

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Thanks Kelly

We need to establish what wwe can do with folks in Bremen. Maybe if we send several cams together and expect them back together they won't mind the bother.

Do any of them speak Englsh? Do you have contact info?

Thanks

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Yes, thanks for that info. I agree with the wife "not always seeing eye to eye on camera expenditures" part as well.
The price is good in Germany - too bad they won't accept U.S. cameras.

Here is the reply I just got today from Precision camera:
"I have received a response in regards to the upgrades to the unit, unfortunately parts are rare for this unit and we are unable to do this type of repair.

At this time I can advised you to contact Sony at 800-282-2848 and they would be able to advise you if they have a center that would be able to assist you with this matter."

Well...they were the center that Sony claimed could assist me with this!   
So...looks like a no-go in the U.S.
A shame, I will probably have to stick with the 7, then in the long run. Which isn't all bad - maybe that will allow me to spend more on lenses.

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You can still manual focus :)
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Have you attempted to contact Zoomtron in Canada yet?

Now, I have no idea if they are still a viable operation or not these days, but they did the Minolta camera warranty work after KM buckled.

I've not been to the Mississauga (Toronto) location in a couple of years now, might be worth checking them out if they are still around.

Zoomtron
1170 Beaulac Street
St-Laurent, QC H4R 1R7
Tel. 514-333-0004
Email: zoomtron@qc.aibn.com

Zoomtron
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Mississauga, ON L5T 1C9
Tel. 905-670-7722
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Alex,

It could be worth a try, though I believe that some of our European members outside Germany have tried this. I'll look for contact info later and add it to this post.

Ok, here it is and BTW my contact was Jens and yes, he does speak English:

Runtime Contract
Sony autorisiertes Servicecenter für
Konica Minolta Produkte
Senator-Helmken-Str. 1
28197 Bremen
Germany

Tel.: 0421 - 52 62 8 0
Fax: 0421 - 52 62 8 111

repairinfo@runtimecontract.biz


Japan, might be another alternative. Can any of our Dyxum colleagues in Japan help us out?

Also, If parts in Bremen are still available, and I can get my wife's OK, (Last fall was a bad time for us because my wife's father in Germany passed away)I wouldn't mind helping you and Jed out by taking your cameras with me, of course, I could have problems with customs carrying three Max 9s!

By the way I asked KEH if any of their stock has the update, and I received a reply today from Dan Orchard, KEH Sales Representative as follows:

Although we appreciate your interest in our used
products, those upgrades are not tested for when we
check an item before placing into inventory.

I would like to be able to get the answer for you on that but unfortunately we do not have anyone available to check for that at this time. You will have to assume that these cameras do not have that upgrade. Sorry.

The sad truth is that Minolta is gone and Sony doesn't care about us -- we film SLR users are probably a very small percentage of all customers that may have interest in purchasing a Sony SSM lens. ADI flash metering may be an even more important feature of the update, at least for some.

As has been said there is always the "7" and of course used "G" "HS" glass !

Kelly

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Originally posted by Stvr Stvr wrote:

Have you attempted to contact Zoomtron in Canada yet?

Now, I have no idea if they are still a viable operation or not these days, but they did the Minolta camera warranty work after KM buckled.

I've not been to the Mississauga (Toronto) location in a couple of years now, might be worth checking them out if they are still around.

Zoomtron
1170 Beaulac Street
St-Laurent, QC H4R 1R7
Tel. 514-333-0004
Email: zoomtron@qc.aibn.com

Zoomtron
c/o 1329 Meyerside Drive
Mississauga, ON L5T 1C9
Tel. 905-670-7722


Wrong address for Zoomtron Mississauga, and it's already reported they don't have the parts anymore.
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