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ffrolvaag ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 16 November 2007 Country: United States Location: United States Status: Offline Posts: 1125 |
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Minolta hot shoe optical triggers- available on ebay
These are small optical triggers that have a hot shoe mount (iISO or ISO depending on the version). The bottom is slotted with a standard ISO shoe and a brass standard thread so that it may be mounted onto either a light stand or umbrella stand. The optical receiver takes a flash signal that triggers the flash to fire. ![]() ![]() Total Cost/ Availability: 12.99 USD including Shipping. The units are made in and shipped from China and can only be purchased from ebay. The unit I ordered only took approximately two weeks to arrive. PROS: Inexpensive Allows for use of off camera flash Will work with any body A standard ISO mount is also available Relatively reliable No batteries required Small and portable Solid Build Quality CONS: Doesn’t ignore pre-flash Limited range No Built in PC port HSS Doesn’t Function Any flash will trigger the system Ships from China No Warranty Line of sight only Ease of Setup: The total setup time for these is just seconds. Affix the trigger to the stand via either the standard ISO foot or the threads at the bottom. Slide the flash into the foot and turn it on. Set the flash however you desire and you are ready to go. The iISO shoe that I tested fit my Minolta 3200I, 5200I, 5400xi, and 5600hsd securely. The fit wasn’t too tight or too loose. Compatability Issues: The design tested is not an intelligent design. This means that the sensor does not ignore a pre-flash. As a result, if your camera’s shoe mounted or on board flash sends a preflash, the flash mounted on the slave unit will fire before the shutter opens. This means that any flash can be used to trigger the flash so long as it does not preflash. On the down side, HSS can’t be used since the Minolta/Sony cameras must send a pre-flash when using this function. Additionally, any flash (yours or someone else’s) will trigger the receiver. Sony/Minolta bodies on board flashes can not be used to trigger the receiver since they all preflash with the following exceptions. Both the 7D and A700 have the capability to fire an on board flash manually which eliminates the preflash and the a900 doesn’t have an on board flash. Users of all other bodies should not despair, as there is a work around for all other bodies. If one of the older Minolta units is mounted to the body and set to manual, that unit will not preflash, and will trigger the off camera flash. Any flash mounted with an FS-1100 adapter will also disable preflash. The flash mounted to the unit will fire up the x-synch speed of the body. Non-manual flashes such as 3200I, 3500xi, and 3600hs, HVL-F36AM will all fire at full power when used with this slave adapter. (Yes, I know that the 3200I has a hi/lo setting, but it lacks much flexibility.) Useable Distance: The useable distance for these depends greatly on the lighting conditions coupled with the power of the triggering flash. In a darkened room (metered at 1/10 sec at f5.6, ISO400) the onboard flash (GN12) set to full power could trigger the receiver at a distance of over 30 feet (I ran out of room at 30’). At 1/16th power, it was only able to trigger the receiver at only a distance of 18 feet under the same light conditions. I also tested the unit out doors where conditions were metered at 1/500 sec at f5.6 ISO 400. With the on board flash set to full power, the range dropped to only 12 feet. For reference, there was a 5 2/3 stop difference between indoor and outdoor lighting conditions. As expected, in brighter out door conditions, the distance was significantly reduced. Since it is overcast, I didn’t get to try the receiver in direct sunlight. One other note, this is line of sight system. If the receiver doesn’t see the light, it won’t trigger. Conclusion: Depending on your needs this is a good option for those that want to use older flashes on a Sony/Minolta dSLR that does not have built in wireless capabilities, but can be configured manually. The price is very inexpensive to pick one of these up. However, for the money, there are certainly other trigger options that are more attractive and may suit one’s needs better. The main place I can see myself using one of these with pocket wizards in an umbrella or softbox. Using this adapter will allow a second flash in the same modifier to be fired at the same time without additional adapters and cables. They also make it an easy way to trigger a hair light or other background light, so long as the trigger can see one of the other flashes in the setup. Edited by ffrolvaag - 26 January 2009 at 02:20 |
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Franz
a99ii, Hassy HV, a900, 1200 (w/MFC-1000), 3x converted f1.2 (Rokkor 58, Nikon 50 ais, and Pentax 50), and assorted lenses from 8mm f4 - 1000mm f8 |
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TallPaul ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 17 March 2006 Country: United Kingdom Status: Offline Posts: 2824 |
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Very useful review
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matthiaspaul ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 08 September 2006 Country: Germany Status: Offline Posts: 940 |
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Actually, they seem to be manufactured by Seagull (who have a very long history with Minolta), at least you can find this servo flash receiver SYK-6 on their web-site as well: http://www.camerachina.com/productxx.asp?id=1614 BTW. You can also find the Seagull SC-5 and SC-6 there: The Seagull SC-5 can be seen as a clone of the original Minolta FS-1100 hotshoe adapter. Just like the FS-1100 it supports all Minolta-specific TTL signals "F1", "F2" and "F3" and "GND", and it can be used as a 100% substitute for the FS-1100. Additionally, it provides a PC terminal, something the original FS-1100 did not. One could, however, always order a custom variant of the FS-1100 directly from Minolta's service department, which featured a PC sync port as well. This custom part was nick-named FS-PC in Minolta's documentation, but it never appeared in product flyers or such. I have read reports, that a variant of the SC-5 exist, which only supports "F1" and "GND", but I have not seen it myself yet and don't know its offical name. While at first glance the Seagull SC-6 seems to similarly resemble a Minolta FS-1200 hotshoe adapter, it is actually a rather different beast. Similar to the real FS-1100 the real FS-1200 supports all TTL signals "F1", "F2", "F3" and "GND". In contrast to this, the SC-6 only supports "F1" and "GND". While this may be enough to trigger a Minolta iISO flash via a 3rd party flash servo, we should really be specific about it and not call the SC-6 a "FS-1200 clone", as it happens all over the place. It serves a different purpose, and I think, not calling it by its true name creates alot of confusion among newbies, who actually think, they bought a FS-1200, while they didn't. Greetings, Matthias |
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ffrolvaag ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 16 November 2007 Country: United States Location: United States Status: Offline Posts: 1125 |
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Matthias,
Thanks for adding the information. I wasn't aware that Seagull made the Optical Triffer. I ordered it off of ebay, but the seller was not listed as Seagull and didn't come in Seagull packaging and there are no indicating marks on the adapter. I also have purchased the SC-6 which does have specific Seagull packaging, but was unaware of the incomplete wiring, so thank you for setting the record straight. None the less, it serves it's purpose for me (and probably most Sony/Minolta users). I was aware of Minolta's FS-1100 PC port adapatations that weren't listed anywhere. My local camera shop would send them out upon request. What baffled me (and still does) was why Minolta didn't just add it to the original design. Perhaps they didn't want users to fry their cameras using high voltage studio flashes. I guess that is the most important thing for others to consider when using a true FS-1100. Since the original FS-1100 adapters (an many of the clones) don't have any safe sync, make sure that ISO foot flash you use has a low trigger voltage. Otherwise you could seriously damage your camera. |
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Franz
a99ii, Hassy HV, a900, 1200 (w/MFC-1000), 3x converted f1.2 (Rokkor 58, Nikon 50 ais, and Pentax 50), and assorted lenses from 8mm f4 - 1000mm f8 |
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dogears ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 05 September 2006 Country: Philippines Location: Philippines Status: Offline Posts: 9574 |
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I'm just starting to browse this section again, thanks for the share Franz :)
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TallPaul ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 17 March 2006 Country: United Kingdom Status: Offline Posts: 2824 |
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I can't seem to get to the camera china website? the SC-6 sounds just like what I am looking for, as I want to replace the standard flash "foot" thats quite large (and plastic) with a better connection between an umbrella adapter and my 56 flash. I was going to buy the Sony off camera shoe but it was overkill as I use the cable to connect to the flash (no wireless with A900 - can't afford another flash), and I just wanted the physical mounting.
Off to ebay with the search function I guess, sounds like ffrolvaag you got one ok from ebay? |
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ffrolvaag ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 16 November 2007 Country: United States Location: United States Status: Offline Posts: 1125 |
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TallPaul,
I did get one off ebay with no problems. I got one from Seagull with no issues and it works well. It took roughly 2 weeks to arrive to the states shipped from China. Edited by ffrolvaag - 05 February 2009 at 01:27 |
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Franz
a99ii, Hassy HV, a900, 1200 (w/MFC-1000), 3x converted f1.2 (Rokkor 58, Nikon 50 ais, and Pentax 50), and assorted lenses from 8mm f4 - 1000mm f8 |
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