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    Posted: 05 November 2009 at 12:41
Please see e.g. this link.

But this update is really strange for me ...

Originally posted by Sony Sony wrote:

Firmware Update Additional Features / Improvements

   1.      When the Metering mode is set to the Center weighted or Spot metering modes, the exposure will be locked when the focus is confirmed. (When shooting in AF mode)


Why anybody would like to have such thing? I mean: it never worked like that - only multi-segment metering was locked when focus was confirmed.

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That may have been added because these cameras have no AEL button (which you would use when you want to lock exposure in the other metering modes).
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Maybe not a bad thing at all.

It certainly would make sense when you take that the a2**/a3** series are the entry level d-slr's - an area where most users will not understand how metering etc. works or they are in a learning process and still far away from full manual use of their cameras (not to offend any members on Dyxum, but I am speaking about the majority of fresh d-slr users, also people with no film-shooting background etc), but if they know that one always should focus on the eyes than at least the face and skin are properly exposed.

Which again will lead in many cases to wrong exposure, as well.
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I just can't understand why Sony cannot made these things optional. I mean, why shouldn't we have the option to choose how we want these controls to behave?
A low or high end cameras .. it doesn't matter; we should be able to customize such options to our own shooting style and not depending on what some engineer in Japan thinks is better :(
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Originally posted by Kiklop Kiklop wrote:

I just can't understand why Sony cannot made these things optional. I mean, why shouldn't we have the option to choose how we want these controls to behave?
A low or high end cameras .. it doesn't matter; we should be able to customize such options to our own shooting style and not depending on what some engineer in Japan thinks is better :(


Simple - because someone who needs "these things" wouldn't understand the options. - TF
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sybersitizen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 November 2009 at 17:21
I don't see this arrangement as a problem - unlike many other things Sony has done. I assume that focus and exposure stay locked only as long as the shutter button is held down lightly. If that's the case, I can't think of many common situations where I would prefer to have the exposure float while the focus is locked and I'm preparing to fire the shot.
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote ABramley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 November 2009 at 17:34
This would be a huge problem for me for landscape work - I often lock the focus point on some random object just to get a rough hyperfocal distance after having locked the exposure off something else.

Or anything with strong lighting. Couldn't have taken this using the new Sony system. The focus is on her eyes, middle grey is somewhere on her leg...

I won't be installing it on the pair of a230s that I look after.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sybersitizen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 November 2009 at 19:59
Oh, there's always a way to do such things - like simply switching to manual focus mode after the focus is locked.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MarkSangenito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 November 2009 at 23:18
I just can't understand why Sony cannot made these things optional. I mean, why shouldn't we have the option to choose how we want these controls to behave?
A low or high end cameras .. it doesn't matter; we should be able to customize such options to our own shooting style and not depending on what some engineer in Japan thinks is better :(


you got to remember though Kiklop, these series of cameras are designed for soccer moms and people wanting a DSLR but use it like a point and shoot.

This is a dumbing down of the AEL button. It makes sense to me though, you have center point AF, to the soccer mom you focus on what you want to take a picture of...and that even includes metering.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote kiklop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 November 2009 at 23:37
But i still don't understand it .. "soccer moms and people wanting a DSLR" are unlikely to change metering modes all that often (can you imagine them using a spot metering? :)
Besides, even if Sony thinks about the mentioned target userbase in the first place don't they underestimate other users that are more advanced than that ?

I really don't get it .. also .. i don't get why they bothered with this firmware update at all (they needed so long to realize they could do it "better"?); the best i can think of is that some highly placed Sony rep has finally got one of those cameras in his hands and HE thought the former behaviour was wrong or Sony just wanted to catch few lines in website and magazines headers for free (in absence of any other offering).

I guess my cognitive capabilities are too limited to understand modern marketing
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ABramley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 November 2009 at 23:46
Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

Oh, there's always a way to do such things - like simply switching to manual focus mode after the focus is locked.


Oh yes, I quite agree. But does that really make me want to use the Sony over any other competing model? There's a way to cut sheet metal using a toothpick, but why don't you just use a blowtorch? It's too late for me - I've already bought 2 of them, but it's just not good...   
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sybersitizen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 November 2009 at 01:34
Originally posted by ABramley ABramley wrote:

There's a way to cut sheet metal using a toothpick...

I need to know how to do that! Can you point me to the instructions?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ABramley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 November 2009 at 02:24
My secret! I'll let you know that when you let me know why engineers in Japan know better than I do that I'll always want to take my exposure off my focus point

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