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    Posted: 10 September 2006 at 22:21
I took the plunge, and instead of hunting for a used, $275 minolta RS, I spent $350 for a new Sony. Here are my initial impressions:

(1) Quality of the glass - Exceptional. I don't see a bit of difference in shots taken with this and my recently departed (sale to jazochromatic) 50/1.4 original. AF is just as fast, colors are just a nice...as expected. Coating seems different on the front element however. I am looking forward to seeing if this newest version can handle chromatic abberation better than the older models did.

(2) Exterior feel - It felt lighter. Perhaps more plastic in this one gives it less weight. It is a very attractive lens, not a shiny black...more matte black instead, less prone to scratches it seems. It looks good mounted on the camera too. I really like the orange stripe at the mount, adds a bit of flare. The front of the lens is really bare, simply a 1.4/50 and a 055 on the other side. No sony, no alpha, nothing else. The hood is small, and nice. The grip actually is its worse feature. It is too slick. No ribs/grooves at all. Go feel your 7d thumb grip on the back, now do you feel those slight bumps? This lens doesn't have any of those...it's slicker. The zoom ring is the same material. If you have sweaty fingers, good luck MFin.

3) Construction - Made in China?? Is all of their glass going to be made over there? What happen to proven, quality Japanese manufacturing?

Overall, it is everything I had expcted optically, but the exterior left me wanting just a bit more. It looks really, really nice, but it could have better useability in regards to its materials (i.e grip and focus ring)

















I meant 'focus' ring, not zoom :)

Edited by H20boy - 11 September 2006 at 01:27
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I like it! It would look sexy on my A100. I'm still waiting for a good opportunity to buy this because I already have the 50mm 1.7 RS and 50mm RS Macro. Maybe for Christmas although I was saving that spot for an 11-18!
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Thanks for the update. I didn't even know this lens was available yet. I've been pondering it. But am waiting for Zeiss to announce some stuff and see if the rumored 1.4/50 CZ shows up.

I really like what sony has done visually with the lenses. Really cleaned up the look. The grip doesn't look much different then my 1.7/50 RS. The problem is it is just too small.

I really like how they cleaned the front up and kept it simple. Real shame that when you get to the bottom they have all sorts of stuff there cluttering it up. But hey at least the lenses now have model numbers!

The 1.4/50   Leica/Zeiss like notation is a very nice change. never liked seeing "AF 50mm 1:1.7 (22)"   just clunky looking.

Curious how they changed the red dot to a flat top orange thing, looks cheap.

Also a real shame that it looks like sony is using the crappy black rear caps, and not the nice white ones. The white ones are great, they hold better, seam to fall into place better, and let you see through the lens some.

Is this thing Internal or External Zoom. I just noticed today that my 2.8/24 is internal. Would be nice to see that on more of the primes.

Far as China, yes, everything is moving to there. From what I understand, this lens is not a re-badge, but a un-released Minolta lens (like the 35G). So it was upgraded to D status and was to get built in the new China plant.

Now, get taking photos.
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Oh, based on what the lens database says, and what sony's site says, this lens is lighter then the old RS by 15g
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Originally posted by PhotoTraveler PhotoTraveler wrote:

Curious how they changed the red dot to a flat top orange thing, looks cheap.

I think it fits rather nice with the cosmetic look of their lens lineup. No more rounded edges, mostly bevels.
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Ok, this is strange, BHphoto does have this lens, but they put it in a section called Minolta-Sony, and it's the only lens there. Verses the Sony section which has A few Sony's but not the 1.4/50. Odd.

I don't think they did much of anything edge wise, I just think that bump looks like a quick hack, doesn't go with the rest of the lens.
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote H20boy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 September 2006 at 02:48
This lens is an external zoom. Any idea what the EU only symbol and note mean?
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I think it's saying it doesn't mean RoHOS (the EU ban on just about everything. Maybe you can't throw it out in the EU since it has banned substances or something.

Or maybe it's the opposite and that is saying it does pass.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Saleen219 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 September 2006 at 04:49
Think I will stick with my Minolta 50mm 1.4 :P

After all, it's baught and paid for.
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Originally posted by PhotoTraveler PhotoTraveler wrote:

Or maybe it's the opposite and that is saying it does pass.


I googled and found an answer:

Originally posted by abc.net abc.net wrote:

The CE Mark indicates a product may be legally offered for sale in any country within the European Union.

Manufacturers put on the CE Mark on products to show that it complies with essential requirements of relevant European health, safety and environmental protection legislations.

This means a product with CE Mark can be sold within the European Union (EU) and the European Free Trade Area (EFTA) and move freely within the European Single market.

And, from a marketing perspective, it shows the product meets designated minimum safety standards and therefore a minimum level of quality and enhances a product's credibility.
Assessment process

To qualify for a CE Mark a manufacturer must complete a conformity assessment process for the product by preparing a technical file and drawing a declaration of conformity.

The assessment approach used by a manufacturer to determine whether their product conforms to the relevant legislation will differ from product to product. A manufacturer can make a self-declaration to obtain the CE Mark for products classified to be low risk, while those classified high-risk require a full assessment of the product and quality system.

The product categories and their assessment requirements are specified in the New Approach Directives published by the European Union.

Some of the general product areas covered by the European Union Directives include: medical devices; construction products; gas appliances; personal protective equipment; radio and telecommunications terminal equipment; and toys.

To gain a CE Mark certificate you have to be certified by a European-notified body, which in simple terms is an accredited certification organisation with a registered office in Europe. In Australia, a number of organisations including SAI Global can facilitate CE Marking.

The cost of CE Marking varies greatly depending on the complexity of the product and the directive under which it needs to be certified. It could range from a few thousand dollars for a self-declared product to tens of thousands of dollars for a product that requires a more rigorous testing and audit regime.

This question answered by:
Tom Godfrey,
SAI Global (formerly part of Standards Australia)


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Well, shame they have to make it so big and ugly with that. What's wrong with small little logos :/
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Diddlbiker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 September 2006 at 06:18
Hey, just be glad they didn't stamp it on the lens...

Besides that, I cannot recall seeing those CE logos on the Minolta lenses - and they're sold in Europe just as well. Mmmh.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote PhotoTraveler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 September 2006 at 07:18
Well, Sony is probably full updated. The RoHS stuff didn't kick in till earlier this year, KM probably never bothered.

Far as the CE, thats on lots of stuff. Included, the 17-35, 28-75, 28-100, 24-105, 100-300. (I own those)

It's the stuff left of the serial number that bothers me, All the sony blah blah stuff, and the big thing about the EU.
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May I ask you for a favour? My AF 50/1.4 RS makes a flare in the center of the image. That might be a reason for replacing this lens with a Sony 50/1.4 lens. Can you check if the Sony lens does a flare as well?

You can provoke it as follows.

Put a lens (or any other dark object) in the center of a bright white paper. Make a flash shot with f=11 or more with the lens in the middle of the picture. Check the picture if there is a flare in the middle of the picture in the dark area.

Try to make picture of another lens using the Sony 50/1.4 as you did for making pictures of the 50/1.4 lens. Just use aperture 11 or more.

Thank you in advance and regards, Josef.
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