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crlowryjr ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 01 August 2008 Country: United States Location: California Status: Offline Posts: 638 |
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Veeeeeeeeeeeery interesting.
I shoot almost entirely in fully manual mode, but what I have stumbled upon is pretty much the same you're outlining Clyde ... and wouldn't it figure, while I go by Rob my first name is Clyde as well. So for me, I use spot meter exclusively, meter for the brighter side of the person's face, and 'adjust something' until I'm about 1+. If I'm already on the edge of risking shake / inducing blur, I'll adjust the F-Stop, or if the DOF is already where I want it, I'll bump the ISO. And while my personal taste is usually for a bit more shadow and contrast, I find doing this, and then pulling the image down a bit in my RAW converter creates a much better image than shooting it darker and then having to push it up. Always interesting to me, when people stumble across very similar solutions from a different angle. |
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HPS3 ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 04 June 2012 Country: United States Location: Slidell, La Status: Offline Posts: 58 |
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Thanks for this wonderful information.
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Photosopher ![]() Senior Member ![]() Knowledgebase Contributor Joined: 13 June 2010 Country: United States Location: St. Louis Mo Status: Offline Posts: 4190 |
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Sorry Debra I'm unfamiliar with the a500. I would think it has three types of metering in the menu selection, that being matrix, center, and spot. You can achieve the same results with center weight but you'll need to get closer to your subject to accommodate the expanded metering circle. I would assume it also has toggle lock on the a500, but I'm speaking without real knowledge here.
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Debra ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 25 November 2009 Country: United Kingdom Location: England Status: Offline Posts: 546 |
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Thank you rpenmanparker and photoshopper for replying will take on board and try more tomorrow or during this week..
I do use my spot meter all the time from when I read in a book and info about grey card reading... I think impresser thus method and like you say find my way from this.. You mentioned spot reading the face I only have the in camera meter reading and it only does a little area on my a500 and I am not sure about using center weight?. Thanks again Debra |
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Photosopher ![]() Senior Member ![]() Knowledgebase Contributor Joined: 13 June 2010 Country: United States Location: St. Louis Mo Status: Offline Posts: 4190 |
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rpenmanparker gave a pretty good answer but there's a little more to it than that. On this shot, it is true that I spot metered tightly on the bright side of face. ![]() But that's only because it satisfied the look I was attempting to achieve. I didn't want the highlights to blow out on this particular shot. It would have been much too contrasty against the dark background. But there is no right or wrong. You must find your own personal taste for each shot just as much as deciding background or red vs blue sweater. Keep in mind that the lighting changes in this tutorial. For front lit shots like these (natural window light), pretty much anywhere on the flesh will do fine. Measure on a cheek or nose or forehead, or better yet, try and make the spot circle fit the entire face: ![]() The same principle holds true for backlit shots (still natural light, reflecting from the background window onto the wall behind me). The lighting is very even, so anywhere on the face will work fine. ![]() But for shots like these, that only have a little side light, or creep over from the backlight, the reflector helps to fill shadows to even out the lighting enough that a full face reading will be great. Don't need to worry about separating shadows from highlights. Just meter the entire face and you'll get it. ![]() ![]() A browse through my website shows that I only use this metering for the most clean style of portraits. ![]() ![]() ![]() But this method is not a hard and fast rule by any means. It's offered as a learning tool to take the guesswork out of clean portraiture. It is easily modified to your own personal taste for more editorial style imagery later on... Experiment and see which look suits your personal style. Have fun with it! The following images are a variation on the same type of metering. Some with +1, some with -1 or +2. You decide how you want it to be. But learn to use that spot meter. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Edited by Photosopher - 01 April 2012 at 03:36 |
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rpenmanparker ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 22 October 2007 Country: United States Status: Offline Posts: 339 |
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In general you would have two differently lit sections of the face, the "normally" lit area and the shadow area. Or to put it into studio terms, the area lit by the main and fill lights and the area lit only by the fill. You should meter the brighter area, the area lit by the main and fill in the studio, or area lit by sunshine outside. If you feel that will make your shadow areas too dark, you can do a few things. Pump up your fill for a lower lighting ratio between the main and fill. If you do this, don't forget to re-meter the bright. Or outside you can add fill from flash or a refelctor. The reflector works inside too. But in simplest terms it is the brightest area of the face that is subject to the metering principles discussed in this thread. |
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Debra ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 25 November 2009 Country: United Kingdom Location: England Status: Offline Posts: 546 |
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I have one more question if I may..
I have been having a go with this, but I am not sure where abouts on the face you get the reading, some parts show a bit lighter than others.. I have to say that I think my photos are okish but just would like to know if there its on the darker area or the lighter, but there is not much in it.. Thank you Debra |
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Photosopher ![]() Senior Member ![]() Knowledgebase Contributor Joined: 13 June 2010 Country: United States Location: St. Louis Mo Status: Offline Posts: 4190 |
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Oh wow sorry... fixed my bad. |
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Debra ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 25 November 2009 Country: United Kingdom Location: England Status: Offline Posts: 546 |
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Thanks Photoshopper for help/tips...
I will have a hunt around phu ket to see if I can find those mirrors if not will have to see what else I can see.. Regards Debra |
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romke ![]() Senior Member ![]() Knowledge Base Contributor Joined: 03 September 2009 Country: Netherlands Location: Putte Status: Offline Posts: 3138 |
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hmmm, that remark was not mine.... |
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Photosopher ![]() Senior Member ![]() Knowledgebase Contributor Joined: 13 June 2010 Country: United States Location: St. Louis Mo Status: Offline Posts: 4190 |
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No doubt about it.
Can also use a heavy vignetting lens like the 70-210 Beercan at f4 to cut the glare a bit. Crop tight and make that bald scalp round perfectly with the vignette blend. But the article also shows use of reflectors, which in some cases (blondes, bald), should be used as overhead baffles. Edited by Photosopher - 28 March 2012 at 18:01 |
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Set it close to the window on one side and bounce mirror from the other to fill the shadows. The more mirrors to bounce back the better. Or if shooting downward, put the window light behind the plate and bounce front fill with mirrors. More dramatic lighting that way. I like to use those vanity makeup mirrors with stands that flip around for a normal mirror on one side and a magnified mirror on the other. The magnified mirror can act like a little spot light. I use three or more of these mirrors when shooting natural light product work... even studio product work. See my food gallery here. First two shots are natural window light with mirrors. Good luck! |
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romke ![]() Senior Member ![]() Knowledge Base Contributor Joined: 03 September 2009 Country: Netherlands Location: Putte Status: Offline Posts: 3138 |
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thanks for sharing the excellent examples and the very useful tips. to some extend dialing in the required EV compensation is also a matter of personal preference (i would have perhaps chosen a bit less) but for demonstration purposes the series of examples are perfect.
it also shows that spotmetering and then locking the value obtained during the complete session can save a lot of work needed in PP and most likely will be more accurate then to use a new matrix metering for every shot you take. one interesting note is where you mention that a "fresh new jeans" can also be used for correct spotmetering. i often employ that principle when shooting soccer, using the green grass as the basis for the metering. if you get more used to spotmetering you will more or less automatically learn what objects are suitable for spotmetering and what EV-compensation will be needed, depending on the object you choose for metering. |
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