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Post Options Post Options   Quote Eclipse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 November 2007 at 15:53
I've always used a skylight filter on all my lenses, (I get nervous if I ever even handle a lens without one on) and have never had fungus- and the northern part of the UK is a fairly damp place. I'm reminded by this to check my long-unused old lenses though, and will fish them out and stick them in sunlight (if I can find any) as a precaution- so thanks for the reminder.

I store my not-in-use gear in wicker crates with wicker lids (rather than sealed plastic crates) so that the air can circulate. Id sooner have things dusty than fusty.

I also work a lot out of doors in the winter. I keep things as dry as possible when outdoors, use a home-made waterproof cover on my bag which I chuck in the car boot when I set off back, with the (hopefully dry) bag itself in the car, to keep the equipment as dry as possible. I don't take the kit out of the bag until I get home, as I'm wary of the effects of sudden temperature/humidity changes. Even if it has just been dank and hasn't rained, I get all my gear out when I return home and leave it out for 24 hours or so in my (very dry) house. I'm also careful not to leave damp bits concealed -particularly in zoom lenses - they all get opened up, including the focus rings.

A decent skylight honestly doesn't cut out a significant amount of light, and can help the image, as has been mentioned above. I used to have to take mine off in low light when I used the cheap ones, but with good ones you really don't need to. The best I've found are Heliopan supercoated. They are expensive, but even the most ouch-making larger sizes are cheaper than all but a mediocre second-hand lens. I've had one filter chipped by cast-up grit on the racetrack, which was annoying- but better that than a lens, particularly when some of mine are no longer available new in any form.

I dropped a manual camera years ago, it landed on the filter front edge, denting a polariser and cracking the glass on the edge of it. I was cross about the filter, but at least the lens, my pet 50mm, was left unscathed.

 



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Excuse an ignorant. How does it look, lensfungus?
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Originally posted by condon condon wrote:


Excuse an ignorant. How does it look, lensfungus?


Xavier had some nice example pictures here of fungus on an MD 50/1.7...
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Not so very nice, must be a bad one.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote my_photography Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 November 2007 at 05:04
I do have UV filter on my lenses. I doubt that UV filter keeps fungus away and I also doubt that having the filter increases the chances of catching fungus.
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I'm curious, have people seen much fungus in newer lenses, like less than 10 years old. I can't say I have ever seen someone who had it in a newer lens. I have to wonder how much lens makers have sealed things, or designed to prevent it, such as fungus/mold resistant coatings and such.
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote my_photography Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 November 2007 at 07:39
Yes, I have, a Taxxxx lens which is less than 10 years, which was infected by fungus. Even with professional help could not save the lens. I have since bought a dry cabinet and kept all my lens in it.
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Older coatings (circa MC Rokkors and before) were more susceptible to fungus due to their organic content. Newer coatings are less "tasty" to fungus but are not 100% immune and I've seen some Maxxum lenses with a bit of fungus.

I'd recommend AGAINST storing your lenses in vacuum bags since when you open the bag, air goes back inside the lens, dragging some dust with it. Much of the dust is organic matter, which provides food for fungus.

Being one of the most pervasive forms of life, fungus spores are everywhere, including inside your lenses. That's not something you can control. What you can control is to deny those spores an environment where the fungus would grow out of the spores. Like was said before, air out those lenses often, by using them in a bright daylight. Keep the barrels dust-free as most lenses' focusing and / or zooming action can suck the surface dust in.

Never keep any mold-infested lenses around, especially near any of your photo equipment including bags and accessories. Store your photo equipment away from bathroom and kitchen in your house, as those areas, no matter how clean to a naked eye, are mold spore factories.

Silicagel packs are nice in theory IF they actually maintain a low (< 30%) humidity in the container they are protecting. In most cases they simply can't - the container is too big and contains too much moisture, it is open far too often, etc. The soluition is to get an efficient, basement-grade dehumidifier and dehumidify the closet or small room where the photo equipment is stored.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote FX Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 November 2007 at 08:16
Well I have about 8 little packets of silica gel in my camera bag, and no fungus here yet, and I do not have any filters. Then again I live in a dryish climate here, but they did spend about 5 months in Singapore which is not :D

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Just my thoughts

Use the lens regularly or at least once in a while
Clean the lens after use and make sure it is fully dry when you finish
Store in as dry and airy a place as possible
Use silica gel
Keep the caps on as they provide another barrier especially at the sensitive lens attachment area
Sunlight can be a very good method of drying a lens ( may help with killing off the fungus but no harm in it anyway )

Don't know if it all works but never had fungus problems despite using lenses in just about every conceivable environment so maybe it does work

Filters - don't know if they work as regards fungus but would prefer a filter to take the first impact rather than the lens glass and to keep dust ( think volcanic lava dust ), sand, salt spray, corrosive air ( think soda lakes ) at bay.

Do they affect image quality - never noticed it but then perhaps I am not fussy enough   
I shot some film yesterday. I was told last night that film was dead so today I shot some more.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Costas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 November 2007 at 10:35
Once fungus takes hold internally - Is the lens pretty much a bin job or can they be repaired/cleaned?

Luckily where I reside, the humidity levels are fairly well non existent for the majority of the year.
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Once there was an old lady in the States that dried her little dog in a gasstove/oven after walking in the rain . Stove/oven broke down and was replaced by a microwave.

After walking in the rain with her dog the old lady put here little dog in the microwave    . Dog died ; Old lady cried .

The old lady lived in flat with a lawyer. The lawyer adviced her to sew the manufacturor of the microwave because it didn't mention the microwave wasn't meant for drying a dog and she could not have known it wasn't suitable for drying a dog like she did in her old oven.

She did sew the company and won. Even got a nice amount of money.

My point ? Can't we dry our lenses in a microwave and then sew the companies. The manufacturor of the microwave as well as the lenscompany. They forgot to mention you can't dry your lens in a mw-oven. If we get a nice amount ; we can buy a nice new A-mount .

I don't know if the story mentioned above is really true but have you noticed all the warning on US products ? ONLY USE THIS PRODUCT FOR .... it often shouts.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dinostrich Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 November 2007 at 11:52
Yup - you could even use one of those tumble-drier things - I bet they don't have any warnings either.

Might make the lens look a bit battered but then I suppose you could claim for that.

( Not sure a lens with any metal component put in a microwave would be a good idea - might produce some interesting shots though )
I shot some film yesterday. I was told last night that film was dead so today I shot some more.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote fophotofile Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 November 2007 at 19:23
I don't know how to explain it?

As an aside, my only experience with fungus came with the sight unseen purchase of an original issue Minolta 28-85mm zoom...

It had fungus that absolutely destroyed the IQ...

Long story short : I took it apart to see if I could clean it, no luck the fungus was sandwiched between two very small lenses glued together e.g. inside a doublet....

Well, here's the spooky part, I just put all the pieces parts in a coffee can and shelved them in my garage. this was months ago and today I reexamined the doublet and the fungus is gone??

I just do not know what to say?

I live in the desert and perhaps 3 months in single digit humidity made it disappear...?

Again, just thought it topical.


????

don't ask me I cannot explain it. Now if I only remembered where all the parts went I could put it back together
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