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skyg
Groupie Joined: 19 January 2008 Country: Canada Location: Canada Status: Offline Posts: 142 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 23 November 2013 at 18:55 |
Forget abut this. It will not do any good and possibly harm the lens mechanism.
Put is back in original packaging and take it out once or twice a year to take some shots. Using the lens will ensure proper operation. You read every day about 20-30 yr old Minoltas still functioning perfectly. I doubt if anyone went through and dehydrator to keep it fungus free. If you are not using it, if not, sell it. Fungus on lens is due to misuse and/or abuse. |
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sybersitizen
Senior Member Joined: 04 August 2006 Country: United States Location: California Status: Offline Posts: 14457 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 23 November 2013 at 19:07 |
Fungus is not a problem in SoCal... so just send your lenses to me for long-term storage.
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Bob Maddison
Senior Member Joined: 28 April 2011 Country: United Kingdom Location: Dorset Status: Offline Posts: 1102 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 23 November 2013 at 19:08 |
A SEALED plastic has no source of moisture and hence cannot suffer from condensation. My own preference is a tightly closed plastic storage box - available at very little cost in almost any size up to 20+ litres. The important thing is to make sure that you don't put anything in that is wet. There is no problem about opening it under damp air conditions as the amount of moist air take in is negligible. There is only a problem with condensation on a lens if it is continually exposed to moist air accompanied by big temperature changes. I would be wary about so called dry cabinets as they might chill the contents leading to condensation when the cabinet is opened!
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ButchW
Senior Member Joined: 01 November 2008 Country: United States Location: SO.California Status: Offline Posts: 146 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 November 2013 at 17:08 |
Ha anyone tried using one of the food vacuum sealers like Foodsaver to store lenses in?....Maybe for long term storage?....Just a thought.
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Bob Maddison
Senior Member Joined: 28 April 2011 Country: United Kingdom Location: Dorset Status: Offline Posts: 1102 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 November 2013 at 19:31 |
For long term lens storage there really is no need to go to extremes. However, it is advisable to isolate the lens from each other just in case one is infected with fungus. Just put each lens in a polythene bag - it doesn't have to be fully sealed, but a zip lock bag squeezed around the lens before being closed to eliminate most of the air is probably ideal. Then put all the bags into a clip top plastic storage box. These are semi sealed. Don't bother with silica gel sachets, their ability to absorb moisture is very limited unless regularly regenerated, and they are only really effective if they start off in a very dry atmosphere as found in a modern optics factory. The poly bag is then sealed with the sachet. I am wary of any chemical desicants as they rely upon having a large surface area to absorb moisture - ideal conditions to harbour fungi. Some (not silica gel)absorb moisture to produce a wet chemical sludge which is corrosive.
For lenses in regular use, the most important factor is to try to maintain a constant temperature. This is most important when temperature and humidity high such as in the tropics. Part time air conditioning is the worst enemy, as is taking a camera or lens from an air conditioned building into the hot moist atmosphere outside without some protection. For that almost any plastic bag is effective until the camera /lens has reached ambient temperature. The opposite applies in very cold conditions when the camera / lens should be protected by a plastic bag when bringing it from the cold outside into a warm room. |
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Kelvin Yam
Newbie Joined: 10 December 2013 Country: Malaysia Location: KL Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 19 December 2013 at 03:42 |
I'm using a dry cabinet (with temp and Rh control), cost less than $100. Before having the dry cabinet, I used to keep my cameras and lenses in a seal plastic box, and thrown in some silica gels. It works but it's very tedious when I need to heat the silica gels back to "blue" state. When I did that with microwave oven, my wife complained that I'm going to everyone in the house who uses the same oven for food.
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puddleduck
Senior Member Joined: 27 November 2009 Country: United Kingdom Location: Cumbria, UK Status: Offline Posts: 1259 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 19 December 2013 at 15:34 |
I do that, I get 'zip lock' type freezer / food bags, and suck out as much air as possible then zip them up, then they go into cyclindrical plastic food storage jars. I own lenses that I've had for several years and this keeps everything in tip-top condition when not in use. |
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Thkpic
Groupie Joined: 22 December 2012 Country: United States Location: CT Status: Offline Posts: 85 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 19 December 2013 at 16:50 |
I keep all mine at the top of a book shelf out in the open. It's a dry room and no moist dark bags or closets for me. Works like a charm and never a problem. I also keep my lenses detached from my cameras when not in use and don't keep the filters on them.
Most importantly, I use them all. |
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Mark_k
Senior Member Joined: 20 January 2006 Country: Hong Kong Location: Hong Kong Status: Offline Posts: 1014 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 14 January 2014 at 19:52 |
I have four of these cabinets
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Mark K A99II A7IV, A77, A6400, A1
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Mark_k
Senior Member Joined: 20 January 2006 Country: Hong Kong Location: Hong Kong Status: Offline Posts: 1014 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 14 January 2014 at 19:53 |
Not necessarily this one but..any one is doing fine
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Mark K A99II A7IV, A77, A6400, A1
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PeterB
Senior Member Joined: 23 April 2008 Country: United States Location: Central Texas Status: Offline Posts: 223 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 January 2014 at 08:03 |
For long term storage and if you want to keep lenses in a sealed plastic bag and don't use silica you should consider packing them on a cold dry winter day. The absolute moister content of the air is a lot less then on a warm/hot day.
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Leica-M
Newbie Joined: 30 January 2014 Country: Sweden Location: Stockholm Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 January 2014 at 18:26 |
Yes, humidity is fungus best friend. Up here in Scandinavia we have darkness and ice cold winters but no humidity, not even in the green winter(=summer). I've got lenses from 50's and 60's without fungus what so ever. So, keep your lenses:
1. Dry, try silicon humidity absorbers 2. Dark 3. < 25C, might be difficult in most non-polar countries, lucky you If you store several lenses tight together they might infect each other. Like humans do. UV-rays might kill'em, the lenses I mean. |
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GlassEye
Senior Member Joined: 02 October 2011 Country: United States Location: Indiana Status: Offline Posts: 1342 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 February 2014 at 15:44 |
After reading through this interesting thread, I got to wondering about my lenses. Here in Indiana, humidity is often an issue outdoors but with central heat and A/C, indoor humidity is negligible most of the year.
Then I remembered an old telezoom from film days that I still had around. I had purchased this 80-240 f/4 zoom from Spiratone back in the early 80's. (Yes, I am that old, thank you ) I have not had it mounted to a camera since my Contax RTS died in the late 80's. Since then it has not actually been stored but rather 'abandoned' at the bottom of a box under a bunch of stuff. Most of this time the box has been situated under other boxes in an unheated garage. So how has this ancient, cheap, abandoned lens fared after all this time and neglect? I dug it out from it's prison and it was pretty dusty on the outside, but the glass is as clear as, well, glass. Not a spot of anything except a very minor amount of dust motes inside. This lens is just as cheap and crappy as the day I bought it! While I have the greatest sympathy for any victims of fungus, I've decided to not worry too much about it. Maybe fungus doesn't like the cheap stuff, I don't know. I'm planning to keep my A mount stuff in use, keep it clean and dry, and I think I'll be OK. Mike |
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GlassEye
I use only free range, organic pixels. Some pixels have been processed, but no pixels were injured in the creation of my images. All pixels are returned to the wild. |
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Wētāpunga
Senior Member Joined: 02 September 2007 Country: New Zealand Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Posts: 6827 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 February 2014 at 00:46 |
I've seen a few lens with fungus over the years in NZ. Saddest case was beercan I bought for my daughter's photography class. It seemed tragic that such a respected lens would have such an ignominious fate.
My own lenses are stored in a dry cabinet (similar to those shown my @Mark_k except Olympus brand). Humidity in Auckland can be 80-90% plus for long periods. That and the warmth makes fungus a known risk. Interestingly many SA immigrants here aren't used to the fungus, as the humidity in the dry areas of South Africa are pretty safe from fungus. |
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