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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 January 2021 at 18:17
Yeah, that 24mm is lovely but clearly overpriced.

I chose the cheapest in each category. I just want a wide angle lens, the f/number is less critical. The full frame range is missing some slower lenses compared to the APS-C line. (I know, we usually frame it differently...)

Depending on what you want, there are very good arguments to go FF or APS-C.
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Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

I don't see any benefit in using an FF image size for video, but you could use an FF camera for stills and use crop factor for video. You could even use APS-C lenses for video - one small and fairly cheap zoom with OSS will work for video and then buy FF primes for stills - assuming you don't mix up still and video photography a lot.
As I said, you have options!

It's not that the A7S is full frame, It's 12MP and full frame.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Miranda F Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 January 2021 at 22:29
Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

I don't see any benefit in using an FF image size for video, but you could use an FF camera for stills and use crop factor for video. You could even use APS-C lenses for video - one small and fairly cheap zoom with OSS will work for video and then buy FF primes for stills - assuming you don't mix up still and video photography a lot.
As I said, you have options!

It's not that the A7S is full frame, It's 12MP and full frame.

Does that give you any better video than APS-C?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote LAbernethy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 January 2021 at 23:12
According to Sony and some videographers who write reviews, the short answer is "yes".
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Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

I don't see any benefit in using an FF image size for video, but you could use an FF camera for stills and use crop factor for video. You could even use APS-C lenses for video - one small and fairly cheap zoom with OSS will work for video and then buy FF primes for stills - assuming you don't mix up still and video photography a lot.
As I said, you have options!

It's not that the A7S is full frame, It's 12MP and full frame.

Does that give you any better video than APS-C?

12 MP allows 1:1 UHD 4K and 4:1 downsampled HD 1080p with fairly fast scan.

The Panasonic Lumix GH5S is similar for Micro Four-Thirds.

For whatever reason this hasn't been done on APS-C. There's just the 24 MP cameras with 6K -> 4K which is great for spatial detail but rather slow scan.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 January 2021 at 08:02
Sony FS5 But that is a completely different animal, but it has a 11.6 mp sensor it seems.

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I don't know what happened.
But I think I got a fairly good deal on a used A7S.
I will take a look on monday; unless it has been abused I will go for it.
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Enjoy it!
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Much has been said already.

One thing not said is battery life. There are 2 type of batteries now in use within the alpha E-mount series: NP-FW50 type & NP-FZ100 type.
Last being used in later model cameras.

If battery life is important to you (example for longer videoclips) have a good look. There is a big difference between them in use, the new type easily give 3 times more/longer power to a camera.
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Originally posted by onsplekkie onsplekkie wrote:

Much has been said already.

One thing not said is battery life. There are 2 type of batteries now in use within the alpha E-mount series: NP-FW50 type & NP-FZ100 type.
Last being used in later model cameras.

If battery life is important to you (example for longer videoclips) have a good look. There is a big difference between them in use, the new type easily give 3 times more/longer power to a camera.

His A55 uses the same NP-FW50 as the first two generation A7 bodies.

I need to get myself a charger for the NP-FZ100. In camera charging has been annoying. The A7III is very picky about charging over either of its USB ports. The battery life once charged is very nice.

Edited by QuietOC - 28 January 2021 at 17:34
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dCap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 January 2021 at 17:59
Originally posted by HJvK HJvK wrote:

I don't know what happened.
But I think I got a fairly good deal on a used A7S.
I will take a look on monday; unless it has been abused I will go for it.
Very excited


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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 January 2021 at 18:36
Originally posted by onsplekkie onsplekkie wrote:

One thing not said is battery life. There are 2 type of batteries now in use within the alpha E-mount series: NP-FW50 type & NP-FZ100 type.
The FW50 batteries are fine. The reputation was undeserved. People were used DSLR's back then that simply do not need as much power as they do not have an EVF. Case in point, compare the CIPA rating between Canon EOS R and the Sony A7S:
Canon EOS R: 350/370 (EVF/screen)
Sony A7S: 320/380 (EVF/screen)
That is comparable. But the NP-FW50 is much smaller then the Canon LP-E6N.
With the APS-C cameras the rating is even better.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Miranda F Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 January 2021 at 19:40
The NP-W50 batteries are small enough that carrying a couple in a pocket isn't a problem. The trick is to make sure you've got good ones, because the small capacity means that poor construction and quality has a much greater impact on battery life than it does with larger batteries.
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@Dcap and Addy: Thank you, will pick it up tonight, am very excited.
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