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I've been using A100 for over 10 years and now I'm thinking of upgrading. All my lenses are old Minolta Maxxum AF. I'm looking at A77ii, A68, or A850/A900. I like A77ii for better AF and video capability. For A850/A900, FF and taking advantage of my old Minolta lenses. I'm leaning towards A77ii or A68 as long as I'm not losing too much of FF capability with my Minolta lenses. What do you guys think?
 



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I was using A100 paired up with beercan for my daughter's orchestra performance. It was a indoor venue and I was sitting about 20 yards away and I had hard time adjusting WB and ended up with a grainy picture using 800 iso. I'm still a novice photographer, but I'm hoping better camera can help me alleviate my problems.
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Hi,

It might help if you can list the older Minolta lenses you have; though they will be aimed at FF (being from the film era possibly) they can still work really well on both APS-C with the corresponding crop you get with those sensors.

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Originally posted by ragamuffin ragamuffin wrote:

I'm looking at A77ii, A68, or A850/A900. I'm leaning towards A77ii or A68 as long as I'm not losing too much of FF capability with my Minolta lenses. What do you guys think?

Those two APS-C cameras will provide the same scene capture ability you get with the A100 using any lens. The improvements will include live view, video, higher resolution, better AF, better low light performance, faster frame rates, and more.

If instead you value an optical viewfinder and larger sensor area (wider views, narrower DOF) you can choose the A850/A900.
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Here are Minolta AF lenses that I have:
AF 20 F2.8
AF 28 F2
AF 50 F1.4
AF 35-70 F4
AF 35-105 F3.5-4.5
AF 70-210 F4

I also have several screw mount lenses with adapter.
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Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

Originally posted by ragamuffin ragamuffin wrote:

I'm looking at A77ii, A68, or A850/A900. I'm leaning towards A77ii or A68 as long as I'm not losing too much of FF capability with my Minolta lenses. What do you guys think?

Those two APS-C cameras will provide the same scene capture ability you get with the A100 using any lens. The improvements will include live view, video, higher resolution, better AF, better low light performance, faster frame rates, and more.

If instead you value an optical viewfinder and larger sensor area (wider views, narrower DOF) you can choose the A850/A900.


I realize my A100 is also APS-C. But since I never had FF camera, I'm not sure what I'm missing in terms of picture quality. Would huge improvements of A77ii make benefits of FF a mute point?
 



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I would still go with the a77ii or a68 if I was you. Better af performance and better high iso performance.
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I have had all those lenses. I recommend getting other lenses with whatever body.

Edited by QuietOC - 24 April 2019 at 20:27
Sony A68 A77II A6000 A7II LA-EA3 LA-EA4 MC-11
Minolta Maxxum 600si
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Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

I recommend getting other lenses with whatever body.

Are my lenses too slow to focus? I still like the color. What am I missing from a newer lenses? Do you have some suggestions? Thanks.
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Originally posted by ragamuffin ragamuffin wrote:

Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

I recommend getting other lenses with whatever body.

Are my lenses too slow to focus? I still like the color. What am I missing from a newer lenses? Do you have some suggestions? Thanks.

Sony updated SSM performance with the original A77. Even older SSM lenses don't support the full performance of the A77 and later SLT bodies. The Sony DT 16-50mm F2.8 SSM kit zoom for the A77 was the first upgraded SSM lens.

Sure, all the Sony A-mount cameras can still focus the original AF lenses. There's even Lens Compensation support for the 20mm F2.8 because Sony is still selling that lens. The Sony DT 16-50mm F2.8 SSM is a much better 20mm lens, especially for video or tracking.

I did get an LA-EA4 for my A7II. I am sure the A99 would be better with those lenses. Both of these are level of the A6000 and A68 as far as image quality. The A6000 is much better for video with its native lenses.

I just bought an A77II myself--mainly to use with the DT 55-300.

Edited by QuietOC - 24 April 2019 at 21:19
Sony A68 A77II A6000 A7II LA-EA3 LA-EA4 MC-11
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Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

Originally posted by ragamuffin ragamuffin wrote:

Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

I recommend getting other lenses with whatever body.

Are my lenses too slow to focus? I still like the color. What am I missing from a newer lenses? Do you have some suggestions? Thanks.

Sony updated SSM performance with the original A77. Even older SSM lenses don't support the full performance of the A77 and later SLT bodies. The Sony DT 16-50mm F2.8 SSM kit zoom for the A77 was the first upgraded SSM lens.

Sure, all the Sony A-mount cameras can still focus the original AF lenses. There's even Lens Compensation support for the 20mm F2.8 because Sony is still selling that lens. The Sony DT 16-50mm F2.8 SSM is a much better 20mm lens, especially for video or tracking.

I did get an LA-EA4 for my A7II. I am sure the A99 would be better with those lenses. Both of these are level of the A6000 and A68 as far as image quality. The A6000 is much better for video with its native lenses.

I just bought an A77II myself--mainly to use with the DT 55-300.


Sounds like "whatever body" meant a suggestion for a newer A77ii/a68 than an older FF camera...
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There’s a used a77ii on Fred Miranda’s buy and sell board in the 500$ range fwiw. That’s a solid used price imo
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Originally posted by ragamuffin ragamuffin wrote:

I realize my A100 is also APS-C. But since I never had FF camera, I'm not sure what I'm missing in terms of picture quality. Would huge improvements of A77ii make benefits of FF a mute point?

In my personal opinion - yes, a moot point. As I mentioned, the really significant benefit of an A850/A900 over the A77II would be if you value an optical viewfinder and larger sensor area (wider views, narrower DOF) above other things. Low light performance should not be dramatically different between the two ... probably about 1/2 stop.

If you're willing to consider the far more expensive A99II, that offers the benefit of much more refined sensor technology in a full frame format along with other improvements.
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Originally posted by ragamuffin ragamuffin wrote:


Sounds like "whatever body" meant a suggestion for a newer A77ii/a68 than an older FF camera...

You could get an A58 and not be missing much image quality compared to those, though I wouldn't recommend it for video.
Sony A68 A77II A6000 A7II LA-EA3 LA-EA4 MC-11
Minolta Maxxum 600si
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