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    Posted: 27 September 2021 at 02:33
Ok, here's a question for some of you who have gone (partly or fully) from the A-mount to the E-mount.

Looking back on that decision to switch, would you do it again? Was the move worth it, or do you think sticking with the A-mount in the end, would have been better?
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I kinda wish I had skipped A-mount completely. E-mount may not be the best choice now, but it is better. There are a couple of A-mount lenses I'd still like to try, but they are getting harder to find.

I just finished repairing a Minolta AF 28-135mm today. A screw from an internal lens group was jammed somewhere in the mechanics. Also the brushes in the focal length encoder had somehow gotten mangled. It is all working fine now with the LA-EA5/A7RIV.

I should list the A77II and a few more lenses for sale.
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I didnít choose. I grew into the e-mount.
It started with buying a small NEX-3 camera.
For that I needed lenses. Then the advantages of a NEX-5 showed.
Next more small primes where necessary
And, hey the A7 appeared
After some time I found myself with two different systems (actually 3, when counting APC-C separate)
And then I Ďrationalizedí things and ended in a all E-mount world.
Never regretted any of the small steps. Donít know if I would have raken the jump in one go.
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I migrated from a900 to e-mount. I started with a7r which I had as a parallel system for a while. I never really liked that camera. I found a very nice deal on a used like-new a9 and after that there is no looking back. The freedom offered by the AF system is mind blowing and while something similar could probably be achieved by the SLT concept, that mirror is in the way of designing compact high performing lenses. A necessary evil which is very nice to get rid of.
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Originally posted by Dopol Dopol wrote:

I didnít choose. I grew into the e-mount.
+1

I went NEX5 - NEX6 - A6000 - A7 - A7ii - A7Rii

My A850 was sold after I got the A7ii, I still use the A700 and until several month ago my KM5D (until it died due to the famous FFB issue)

I still use A-mount lenses on E-mount via the LA-EA4 and on the A700

For me the biggest attraction of E-mount was being able to adapt older manual SLR and rangefinder lenses and it still is today.

Would do it again in similar small steps.

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Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

E-mount may not be the best choice now, but it is better.
What system would you consider "better" and why?

Canon - the biggest competition, but flaky APS-C and limited lenses
Nikon - proper APS-C but behind Sony and Canon in AF technology and also limited lenses
Fuji - Strong APS-C contender, but no full-frame cameras and the GFX series is not compatible.
Panasonic/Leica: DFD AF works fine but it is not as good as Sony/Canon, fine number of lenses
I do not feel any of these are "better" then Sony, maybe they have some characteristic that is better for you - but as a system at the moment I think Sony has the best system.

Anyway, like others, I grew into e-mount. I picked up a cheap used NEX 5 to use along my A-mount camera as an easier to carry system. I did not want to spend to much into the system, I picked up the Sigma 30/2.8 and 19/2.8 and later the Sony 50/1.8. When I replaced the NEX 5 with the NEX F3 I started to use it more and more. Picked up a A7r2 with the Sigma MC-11 to use with my Canon lenses. The rest is history.

When I pick up my A99m2 I love to hold it. Really love it. With the 70-400G it is a lovely combination. But it also is huge. My A6400 with the 70-350G is so much smaller. Was the shift worth it? Yes.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 September 2021 at 14:05
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

E-mount may not be the best choice now, but it is better.


What system would you consider "better" and why?

Canon - the biggest competition, but flaky APS-C and limited lenses
Nikon - proper APS-C but behind Sony and Canon in AF technology and also limited lenses
Fuji - Strong APS-C contender, but no full-frame cameras and the GFX series is not compatible.
Panasonic/Leica: DFD AF works fine but it is not as good as Sony/Canon, fine number of lenses
I do not feel any of these are "better" then Sony, maybe they have some characteristic that is better for you - but as a system at the moment I think Sony has the best system.


I don't care about format size at all, but the market has chosen full-frame.

I mainly don't like Sony's user interface both physical and software. Sony continues to add more bodies that don't work well for me like the A7C, but I haven't used other mirrorless systems much. My local store can't seem to decide which lines to carry. There is a lot to appreciate about E-mount.
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Thus far I'm happy to have skipped E-Mount and should have taken a pass on most of A-Mount. I'm not someone who is into post processing. A tweak here and there I can manage but other than that, Meh. I started with Olympus were the image processer takes the raw file and pulls and stretches the most that can be gained and neatly packages it into a little jpeg file in camera. Now that includes focus stacking, HDR, High Resolution Stiches, etcetera.
Sony's image processor has always been heavy handed, clipping highlights, desaturating colour, taking a decent raw file and turning it into crap. I thought it was the camera so i tried a different model. no joy. I've had a Minolta 7D, Sony A100, A200, A300, A500, A550, A580, A700, A850, A37, A57, A58, A68, A77, A77II, A99. All to a similar experience. The Raw files are nice. The in camera processed, Meh.
Has this changed with the latest E-mount cameras? I don't know. I went back to Olympus for mirrorless and a lighter load.
I still like and use the Sony cameras I have. I just hate all the computer work.
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I use JPEG the majority of the time and haven't noticed issues with Sony cameras. Certainly nothing like what Apple does with their phones. Sony allows sharpening to be disabled, which is a huge image quality advantage.

Sony does cook their raw files. It would be nice if they would stop doing that.
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With the current e-mount glass available definitely no regrets.
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Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:


Sony does cook their raw files. It would be nice if they would stop doing that.


I'm sure you would like to keep some cooking: correlated double sampling, hot pixel mapping, compensation for phase detection pixels etc.

I suppose some specialist applications could benefit from less filtering, but in everyday shooting I have never found it to be problematic. Do you have any cases where you had problems?

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Originally posted by Jonas A-R Jonas A-R wrote:

Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:


Sony does cook their raw files. It would be nice if they would stop doing that.


I'm sure you would like to keep some cooking: correlated double sampling, hot pixel mapping, compensation for phase detection pixels etc.

I suppose some specialist applications could benefit from less filtering, but in everyday shooting I have never found it to be problematic. Do you have any cases where you had problems?


I do get that. I am generally happy with Sony's compressed raw especially with Capture One. In the under processed category people are finding artifacts in yellow areas with the A1 in Capture One. That seems to be related to the phase-detection. The circular bands from the Shading Compensation is one I see posted fairly often. Of course the star eater. It seems like some complaints may be more accurately attributed to Adobe processing, which I generally don't use.
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Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

With the current e-mount glass available definitely no regrets.

This is really it. If you like lenses, E-mount is where it is at. There are few interesting lenses in the other mirrorless mounts, but none have the vast range of what can be used on E-mount. I might even get a GM lens eventually.

Z has the option of using E-mount lenses, but with some limitations. I believe my Samyangs don't adapt well.

RF is probably better with EF lenses, but I am not so attached to EF lenses.

Edited by QuietOC - 27 September 2021 at 20:04
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I started with a Minolta 5D, thus choosing for the mount then.
I switched to A350, A77 and then a used A7R came on my path. I used with my A-mount-glass and the LAE4. Step by step I changed my glass to only E-mount.

Regrets? Mwoa, just price-wise, but further for this amateur, no complaints so far...
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