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Post Options Post Options   Quote bonneville Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 December 2021 at 12:14
I have absolutely no regrets.

After having a NEX-5 as a "keep in the car" camera for a while I was so taken with how the E-mount was growing that I took the bull by the horns and traded all my Sony A-mount stuff in one hit for a7ii and the trilogy of f4 lenses; 12-24, 24-70 and 70-200. And it has grown from there.

I say Sony A-mount as I still have a few Minolta lenses for my 35mm film cameras which I enjoy using from time to time, especially after I taught myself how to develop and scan the films (with Bob J's help and encouragement).
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 December 2021 at 12:41
Originally posted by mudslinger mudslinger wrote:

I am one step behind you. I too started with the Minolta 5D, then A700 and currently still shooting with an A77. I've been so happy with my A77 I have not even looked at new cameras in 5 years. I was shocked to learn Sony was no longer making A mount cameras. I looked at the prices of the e-mount lenses and sighed at the amount of money I'm going to have to dish out to switch to e-mount. I have no idea if its worth it but my two A77s are going to eventually go belly up. So I may be forced one day to go e-mount. I shoot wildlife, macro bug and indoor/outdoor sport photography. I don't have a clue as to what e-mount sony camera to upgrade too. I would need one that has excellent in camera JPEG and good quality high ISO. I guess I could get the a lens adapter but I read that you can't do lens adjustments with the e-mount cameras. Is this true? If so, not cool, as I needed to adjust several of my lenses on my A77s and they are spot on.


A few things.

Sony E-mount lenses are in line with other brands - they all became expensive. But sometimes there are cheaper alternatives from other brands like Sigma, Tamron and Samyang.

Lens adapters are not that easy. Make sure you get the correct one for your lens and camera. As usual, just ask here.

By the time you want to switch, just ask here. All current Sony cameras have excellent out of camera JPEG's and excellent high ISO, better then your A77.

E-mount cameras do not need micro-adjust as they focus on the image sensor. So, there is no slight tolerance between your AF-sensor and the image sensor.
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Originally posted by mudslinger mudslinger wrote:

I am one step behind you. I too started with the Minolta 5D, then A700 and currently still shooting with an A77. I've been so happy with my A77 I have not even looked at new cameras in 5 years. I was shocked to learn Sony was no longer making A mount cameras. I looked at the prices of the e-mount lenses and sighed at the amount of money I'm going to have to dish out to switch to e-mount. I have no idea if its worth it but my two A77s are going to eventually go belly up. So I may be forced one day to go e-mount. I shoot wildlife, macro bug and indoor/outdoor sport photography. I don't have a clue as to what e-mount sony camera to upgrade too. I would need one that has excellent in camera JPEG and good quality high ISO. I guess I could get the a lens adapter but I read that you can't do lens adjustments with the e-mount cameras. Is this true? If so, not cool, as I needed to adjust several of my lenses on my A77s and they are spot on.


I also started out with the 5D then the a700, but got a NEX-7 for the next iteration. I currently run both A and E mount (APS-C and full-frame for both).

Adapters work reasonably well for A to E. If they have motors (SAM/SSM), you can use the simpler LA-EA1/3 which will focus on the sensor, so no FF/BF issues, if they are screw drive, you need the LA-EA2/4, which uses a mirror similar to that in the a77 - so some light loss and a possibility of FF/BF. There is also an LA-EA5 adapter, which will do SAM/SSM and screw-drive with focus on the sensor, but it is only the newest cameras A7rIV onwards that can work with it.

I'd say that AF with the adapters is probably close to what you would get on an A mount camera (possibly not as fast as you would get from native E lenses) - the other issue with the adapters is that the lens is stopped down by a solenoid in the adapter - I don't think this is as fast as the actuator on an A mount camera - no problem at wider apertures, but at smaller apertures I think I notice a slight lag.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote waldo_posth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 December 2021 at 14:36
There aren't probably many DYXUM members who first got an E-mount camera (NEX-3 in my case) and then went on to A-mount (because I thought that would be the more adult cameras, in my case an A57 came first).

My most recent step has been from an A99II to the A7RIV with the LA-EA5 adapter. I did not regret it, quite the contrary. The LA-EA5 is doing a great job on my legacy A-mount lenses. I think my Tamron Telemacro 35-135mm has never had a better AF.

What I appreciate most about E-mount is the large spectrum of lenses, native or adapted - and, not to forget, the interchangeability of some of these lenses with other camera systems.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Wētāpunga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 December 2021 at 05:41
Originally posted by waldo_posth waldo_posth wrote:

There aren't probably many DYXUM members who first got an E-mount camera (NEX-3 in my case) and then went on to A-mount (because I thought that would be the more adult cameras, in my case an A57 came first).


Indeed, I think you are a definite rarity!

Originally posted by waldo_posth waldo_posth wrote:


What I appreciate most about E-mount is the large spectrum of lenses, native or adapted - and, not to forget, the interchangeability of some of these lenses with other camera systems.


The lens range is quite impressive, especially after the rather sparse options in the A-mount.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote onsplekkie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 December 2021 at 08:18
Interesting read here.

My first Sony ( ) was the A300 --> A57.

Decision for selling both camera's and moving to E-mount was made by my growing interest for using vintage & m-mount glass.
Completly silent shutter of the A7s was decisive factor for using this camera on the streets.

Used a Sony AF adapter for some time, did not like it (big!)

 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Hezu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 December 2021 at 09:31
Originally posted by onsplekkie onsplekkie wrote:

Used a Sony AF adapter for some time, did not like it (big!)
Which adapter? There certainly has been some improvement on that department, I have bought all the full-frame adapter models and LE-AE4 is indeed rather cumbersome brick (and its built-in SLT AF feels like downgrade when there is just a handful of centrally located AF points compared to almost full sensor coverage on native AF), LE-AE3 is little better and now the newest and greatest LE-AE5 is nice and compact, although of course its Achilles's heel is that you need the latest cameras to get the full AF support.

And since after I posted first time to this thread I have made the move to eliminate A mount cameras from my equipment, I haven't yet had any regrets apart from the fact that I sold quite a few lens alongside with the cameras and I am not 100% sure if it was the best move to sell many of those lenses for peanuts given that LE-EA5 now handles these very well. And the camera that made me to make these trades, Sony α1, offers so much more than my older cameras that it alone is a good reason to shift to E mount. Granted, it is a pity that this camera model costs a lot, so sadly it might be too expensive for many.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote onsplekkie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 December 2021 at 11:24
Originally posted by Hezu Hezu wrote:

Originally posted by onsplekkie onsplekkie wrote:

Used a Sony AF adapter for some time, did not like it (big!)
Which adapter?


LE-AE4 it was

Surely I would go for A1 was money was not a issue! Would need a new PC too for the big size files it pumps out
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Phil Wood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 December 2021 at 12:39
I have recent made a tentative first step towards E-mount with an A6000/LA-EA4.

A couple of points regarding earlier comments in the thread:

LA-EA1/3 - beware! Earlier E-mount bodies (eg my A6000) do not work at all well with these. Check the Sony website for compatibility - especially the bit about AF speed.

Microfocus adjustment is not needed with native lenses or the LA-EA1/3/5, but you will need to do it with the LA-EA2/4.

The LA-EA5 is the real game changer for me, I am looking it with A7iv or A7riv (or AR7v) as the upgrade route from my A99ii, but I am in no rush.

I like the A6000 as a convenient pocket camera, but it is always a relief to get back to the A99ii or A77 for more serious picture taking. I just find the EVF too small (I hate shooting with LCD screens as I have to put glasses on to see it).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote IanC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 December 2021 at 13:16
I moved from an a77 to the E-mount A7m2 (second hand) in February this year. I haven't really regretted my decision. I got an LA-EA3 adapter to use my 70-300 G lens which I was reluctant to part with as I considered using the adapter cheaper than buying the replacement equivalent G mount lens. I found the image quality better and the performance of high ISOs much better giving me more flexibility. I've just bought a second hand NEX3 as a pocket camera, Like new with a shutter count of 640 it was too cheap to resist. Like Phil I'm not a fan of composing on an LCD screen as I too need glasses.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote 9000AF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 December 2021 at 14:32
I have no regrets. After using A-mount bodies from Minolta and Sony since the dawn of time (1988), I was an early adopter with the NEX5 when it first came out. I didn't like it and traded it for an A55. I dipped back into E-mount with the original A7 in 2014, mainly to use MF lenses and for travel. For me the A77II and A99II bodies were indispensable for sports and action, until the A7III and longer zooms were finally released.

Last year I bought the Tamron 70-180 and the Sigma 100-400 and sold my remaining A-mount gear. The A7III (with L-plate as grip extension) / Sigma 100-400 combo replaced my gripped A99II / Sony 70-400G combo. The e-mount combo is much lighter, easy to handhold all day, with better AF and at least equivalent image quality.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote adhox Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 December 2021 at 22:55
TLDR version: Yes.

Long version: I moved from A- to E-mount initially because I injured my elbow and it took forever to recover, so that my A99ii was just too heavy to use. The elbow is now better (three years later) but Iíve done the transition.

I couldnít consider the first two generation of A7 bodies. No idea how they performed compared to A-mount, but they felt awful in my hand. There are still things I miss about the A99ii, but the A9 and A7Riv each do some things better than the A99ii ever did.

While my E-mount kit started off as a lighter kit - using APS-C bodies and lenses - the addition of the A9 & A7Riv along with some larger lenses has reduced that weight advantage.

My A6600 does provide an effective travel kit that still weighs in much lighter than any kit based on my A77ii did. On my last trip to Japan - back in the days when we could travel - I took a telephoto for the first time. I would never have considered travelling with my 70-400, but A600 with 70-350, no worries!

I am gradually selling off my A-lenses. All my A-bodies are gone. I still enjoy the 135/1.8Z with the latest adapter, and a couple of other A-lenses just because I still have them.

All up, the shift to E has been more +be than -ve.
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I made the jump this past spring/summer. I've been in the A mount world since 2011 when I got my first DSLR (a230). I'd been using an a77ii since 2016 and while it was ok, it was becoming LESS ok for what I wanted to shoot (dogs in motion).

I first picked up an a6100 kit last March and got to playing with it. I LOVED the AF speed so much that I started to make the switch then and there. I sold some of my A mount glass and picked up the Tamron 70-180. And then in June sold the a6100 to buy the a7iii (still wish I could have kept that a6100!).

Was it worth it? 100% YES. My photography has gotten so much better since upgrading. The AF speed can keep up with the dogs I photograph and the full frame lets me shoot indoor agility. I wish I had switched to the E mount years ago. It was the best decision I've made for my photography.
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Originally posted by bonneville bonneville wrote:

I have absolutely no regrets.

Same here. I bought a Nex-6 as a compact digital camera with a decent EVF, and finally moved into FE with the A7Rii. I still use the A58 and the Nex-6 occasionally, but less and less often and the FE camera is my staple camera now; I love it, even when I'm using APS-C lenses.
So absolutely no regrets about moving to an E-mount camera, though I still use my A-mount lenses often. There's no way I'd sell those and use only E-mount lenses unless I was doing a full minimisation.
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