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I'm still happily wedded to my a99ii and a77ii a-mount bodies and range of quality Zeiss ZA and Sony G lenses, but have put a foot into the e-mount camp prompted by the hugely impressive performance of latest AF tracking that the latest cameras and lenses enable. So I started with a discounted new SEL200600 G OSS lens, and then researched and selected a body to drive it, the a7iv.
Awesome combination for sport, wildlife and fast action.
Plus, with the LA-EA5, full functionality and capability when that body is matched to all my a-mount glass, whether SSM or screw focus driven.
I can't really see any reason to sell off my a-mount lenses and expensively replace them with e-mount equivalents. So I'll stay with this combination for quite a while to come.
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No regrets. Almost everything I have is lighter and smaller with at least on par performance. The Sony f1.8 lenses easily perform as well as my old Sony 1.4 equivalents (35mm and 85mm) which made the financial burden less - a like for like swap would have carried quite a lot extra outlay. The only thing I miss from A mount is the flexibility of the screen on A99 and A77. Not often, but occasionally I like to get in front of the camera so future generations know what I look like in amongst the millions of pics I have of my family, and a selfie is very much hit and miss on A7iii and A7Riii.
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Yes, being able to downsize my kit was one of the attractions for me, and I feel my lenses are if anything, better than my A-mount ones.

Fwiw, you can use your phone with the imaging edge mobile app to take selfies. Obviously you need a tripod or the like, but with face detect on camera, and the timer on the phone, it is quite possible. (You may already know this in which case ignore what I wrote)

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It does sound like you are really enjoying the a7iv and it is a great camera. This is the first step many of us took to selling off more and more of our alpha gear
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I loved the A58, didn't like the A900, and prefer the A7Rii to both. Smaller, lighter, and more capable than either.
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I was one of the first here to switch to e mount. Would never go back. Mirrorless gas soooooo many more advantages.
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Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

I loved the A58, didn't like the A900, and prefer the A7Rii to both. Smaller, lighter, and more capable than either.


A7Rii is a real bargain these days. Sensors haven't really improved much since this one.
Only wish it had the larger FZ100 battery.
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Originally posted by C_N_RED_AGAIN C_N_RED_AGAIN wrote:

I was one of the first here to switch to e mount. Would never go back. Mirrorless gas soooooo many more advantages.
I was one of the first to get an E-mount camera. But I did not switch immediately. I bought my first E-mount camera in 2012. I felt is was great for more informal photography but back then it was just contrast based AF. My NEX 5, NEX F3 and A6000 slowly improved and I started to use them more and more. But before the A6000 the AF was simply not good enough for events. I picked up an A7r2 because I wanted to use it with my Canon lenses (as my EOS 6D was faulty). It worked fine for that, bought two native lenses. Now my main cameras are the A6400 and the A7r4 - my Canon and A-mount cameras are clearly secondary systems.

So, yes, the shift was worth it. It was a natural move to E-mount, nothing planned.

Edit: this is the first time I used an E-mount camera next to my A900 for something more serious:


And I noticed it was my F3, not even the A6000

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Similarly I got a NEX5 early on and it was quite a decent travel camera at the time. But it was not close to competing with my a900 and a77ii at the time.

Stage 2 was getting a used a7R, which was used pretty much exclusively as a digital-back to my lenses (99.99% of the time on a tripod), while I used the a77ii as my general purpose camera. I still didn't have any dedicated E-mount lenses.

The big change was getting the a7Riii. That led to my Stage 3, the big sell off of my A-mount gear, and acquisition of a dedicated E-mount lineup. It's let me shoot a lot of subjects and scenes more easily and more creatively. So no regrets.

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Former A900 shooter here, and switched to the A7r....and now the A7riv. No regrets whatsoever.
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Originally posted by roweraay roweraay wrote:

Former A900 shooter here, and switched to the A7r....and now the A7riv. No regrets whatsoever.


There seems to be some trigger point with the mirrorless technology that gets people to the point of no return.

I used to shoot with an a900 and it was probably the most fun camera I've used in the a-mount. A delightful OVF and excelled at the one task of taking photos.
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Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

I used to shoot with an a900 and it was probably the most fun camera I've used in the a-mount.
Let me say something controversial, I disagree.

Loved the OVF and the centre double cross AF-point of the A900. Hated the fact it was unusable over ISO 1000.

The A99m2 was the most fun A-mount camera for me. Great AF system, really nice EVF and as good AF in live view as through the viewfinder. Beautiful 42mp sensor that can be used over ISO 3200. Picking up the A900 after the A99m2 (and A77m2) feels clunky.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote roweraay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2022 at 19:47
I think the A900 when it first came out, put Sony on the "serious" category as a camera manufacturer, due to its attributes, including the full-frame sensor. Similarly, Nikon really came into its own, as a true competitor of Canon, after they finally introduced a product with a full-frame sensor.

Of course IMHO, compared to the Alpha1, all of these are just clunky ancient relics, in terms of sheer capability as a photographic tool, where the prior DSLr limitation of having all of the AF points clustered into the center and having to do lens focus micro-adjust etc were completely eliminated in the mirrorless era with 92% of the sensor area under AF coverage etc
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Let me say something controversial, I disagree.

Loved the OVF and the centre double cross AF-point of the A900. Hated the fact it was unusable over ISO 1000.

The A99m2 was the most fun A-mount camera for me. Great AF system, really nice EVF and as good AF in live view as through the viewfinder. Beautiful 42mp sensor that can be used over ISO 3200. Picking up the A900 after the A99m2 (and A77m2) feels clunky.


I never tried the a99m2 as NZ was one of the first markets it was withdrawn from. So I can't comment on that comparison. What I did like about the a900 was in part driven by the OVF. It was especially good for nocturnal photography of spiders, where I wanted to have as little light as possible coming from the camera to prevent night blindness.

But it was really its simplicity I liked the most. It didn't do live view. It didn't do video. It just took stills photos and in a way that was simple to manage. There was no menu diving, most of what I wanted to do could be done with dials on the camera itself.

I get much better photos technically with what I have now. And I can take images I could never take with the a900. But the elegant method of just composing and taking stills photos was something I still rather enjoyed.
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Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Let me say something controversial, I disagree.

Loved the OVF and the centre double cross AF-point of the A900. Hated the fact it was unusable over ISO 1000.

The A99m2 was the most fun A-mount camera for me. Great AF system, really nice EVF and as good AF in live view as through the viewfinder. Beautiful 42mp sensor that can be used over ISO 3200. Picking up the A900 after the A99m2 (and A77m2) feels clunky.


I never tried the a99m2 as NZ was one of the first markets it was withdrawn from. So I can't comment on that comparison. What I did like about the a900 was in part driven by the OVF. It was especially good for nocturnal photography of spiders, where I wanted to have as little light as possible coming from the camera to prevent night blindness.

But it was really its simplicity I liked the most. It didn't do live view. It didn't do video. It just took stills photos and in a way that was simple to manage. There was no menu diving, most of what I wanted to do could be done with dials on the camera itself.

I get much better photos technically with what I have now. And I can take images I could never take with the a900. But the elegant method of just composing and taking stills photos was something I still rather enjoyed.

could not have said it better myself.
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