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    Posted: 17 February 2021 at 20:22
After the early complaints about poor lens choice on E-mount, especially good cheap primes, there now seems to be a bewildering choice of 35mm primes. But which one to choose?
I need an FE lens with AF and a reasonably fast aperture. Dyxum lists 12.
I won't be interested in a huge or expensive f1.2 or f1.4 lens, which still leaves a few.

So which of the rest do people rate and which were disappointing?

I take a lot more views than portraits so though a smooth bokeh is important, I need good corner sharpness too, especially at full aperture for dusk and night shots. Oh, and I will probably end up pixel-peeping on the 42Mp A7RII (just to check I got the picture right, you understand) which will make soft corners really irritating even if I never really need that magnification.

The Zeiss has most reviews (and good ones) but recent on-line reviews are not complimentary, and comparative tests show the Tamron and Samyang better in many areas. But the Zeiss and Samyang f2.8 are tiny enough to be cute on the Nex-6, which isn't a priority but using them on APS-C occasionally is a requirement.

On the other hand the f1.8 lenses are not too large for either camera and offer useful speed at dusk.

Then there's CA and geometry; I take mostly jpegs with corrections on, so maybe those aren't an issue (or are they? LOCA doesn't get corrected anyway).

Thoughts, Gentlemen, Ladies, and any other Genders?

Edited by Miranda F - 17 February 2021 at 20:25
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I have too many of them--at least the less expensive ones. I even have a used Sony FE 1.8/35 coming.

I started with a used Rokinon 35/2.8 on APS-C and found it better than the APS-C primes. I like it. It is tiny. It focuses pretty well--the ZA focuses better.

Next I bought a used A-mount Tamron SP 35/1.8 USD. This is quite a nice lens, especially for night sky. Tamron really pays attention to flat field at infinity and coma. It is big and bulky even without the adapter. The EF version has optical stabilization. The corners are much brighter than the native primes--the size has some advantages.

Both the 1.4/35 and 2.8/35 ZA's I tried were the worst optically. The ZA's are known for wide sample variation, unlike the lenses Zeiss sells themselves.

The Tamron 35/2.8 is really superb optically.

The Rokinon 35/1.8 is pretty nice. It has some CA.

I found the 7Artisans 35/2 had the least LoCA of the 35's I have. Not the result I expected. Some zooms are better than the primes. Cosina just announced an APO 35/2--about the same price as the 1.4/35 GM.

The Sigma 35/2 C seems to have some of the spherical aberration magic of the 45/2.8. I do like the 45/2.8 a lot.

A7RII 2X Center at F2.8


A7RII 2X Top Right at F2.8


A6000 2X Center at F2.8


A6000 2X Top Right at F2.8


A7II 2X Top Right at F2.8


"35mm F2" Minolta AF RS
"F053" Tamron OSD

Edited by QuietOC - 18 February 2021 at 12:25
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Post Options Post Options   Quote waldo_posth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 February 2021 at 22:03
Just another vote for the Tamron A-mount F/1.8 35mm SP lens. I find the IQ is quite superb although I would also say that this lens has a peculiar character, a special rendering.
These lenses - I also got the F/1.8 45mm - have become stunningly inexpensive. I paid Euro 250 for each. They started out with Euro 1100.

For some time I considered the 35mm Loxia - but the reviews turned me down; I didn't like the rendering of the images shot with it. Since I wanted to get a compact lens I finally ended up with a 35mm ZM Distagon which turns out to be perfect for me.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote onsplekkie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 February 2021 at 08:29
ZA 2.8/35 I liked for its build quaility and size. IQ wise good, but never WOW.
ZA 1.4/35 I liked for its build quality, size not so much (too front heavy & just felt to big for my needs. IQ was good (I had a good copy), some WOW factor with portraits. Didn't like its sunstars in landscapes.
Loxia 2/35 (I know, no AF). Build like a tank! Stopped down very good landscape lens, the best I've used for 35 (clouds just popped out of the image!).

The Voigtlander 1.7/35 Ultron is still the workhorse 35mm for me

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I love my Sony 35 1.8. Nice and compact and haven't had any issues with the images. I'm a pixel peeper in post, but equally don't test my lenses with anything beside a careful eye. The focus hold button is greatly appreciated too - I would make this feature a must have so consider it when looking at 3rd party options. Haven't had any experience of them so not able to provide any comparison I'm afraid.

I used to have the Sony 35 2.8 and although it's a very compact package, the 2.8 negated the point of a prime for me - I realised I need/want them fast, particularly this wide.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Miranda F Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 February 2021 at 09:44
Thanks, guys.
Mathew, the Tamron and Samyang f1.8 look best in the corners. I presume the DT lens is measured at FF? My tests show the APS-C corners very good but sharpness and darkess drops off a cliff a little way after. Also, I assume you mean the Tamron A-mount 35mm f1.8 USD, using the LA-EA3?

What annoys me a little after trying out the A7Rii is that if you fit a prime lens on and then set the digital zoom to narrow the angle, most of the focusing options disappear and you can't get raw+jpeg either. I like primes and was intending to leave them with a digital crop set when it suits me, but that doesn't really work. Unless I've missed a setting ...

Edited by Miranda F - 18 February 2021 at 09:50
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All the digital zooms only work with JPEG only. I haven't used them on full-frame.

I notice now after doing this that my Rokinon 35/1.8 has a small alignment issue and the top right shown is it's best corner. It is a really nice lens. It seems to be the sharpest in the center.

Yes, the DT lens is shown full-frame. I have the APS-C crop disabled. I sold both of the DT SAM primes recently. The one advantage of the APS-C crop on the A7RII is video capture.
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Why not use the crop function? Then you have a two stop zoom: 35mm and 50mm. I have a custom button set to do that.

Anyway, as you consider DSLR lenses: I have the Sigma Art 35/1.4 that I like.
But I think the Sony 35/1.8 makes the most sense if the price is no obstacle. If it is, consider the Viltrox.

Basically, there are to many options with their strengths and weaknesses.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 February 2021 at 12:00
Viltrox is supposed to release an AF full-frame 35mm F1.8 sometime soon. It was on their roadmap. I haven't seen the native Yongnuo 35mm F2 available yet either. I was fairly impressed by the SLR lens shown above. Obviously that one was misaligned.

I added 2.8/35ZA samples to my other post above.

Edited by QuietOC - 18 February 2021 at 12:26
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