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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 April 2021 at 07:47
Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

Originally posted by skm.sa100 skm.sa100 wrote:


It's sort of like a macro lens. No manufacturer makes a poor one (that I know of).

Hmmm, perhaps, but I'd propose the Cosina-AF-100mm-F3.5 as a possible counterexample. Not bad optically, but the AF is hilariously noisy and crude. I'm too embarrassed to use it AF but it's light enough to be useful in MF on the LA-EA1/Nex.
I guess the right word is "possible" as the build is poor or worse, the IQ is solid or better. Hence you kept it Well played!
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Most people around here will most likely have only used one, maybe two, of these lenses. I think that you can... I also own the Minolta 85/1.4G and it is in a different league. I is not "better" in any measurable sense, I think (that is, aberrations and sharpness) but the Minolta's bokeh and rendering is something special, especially the in to out of focus rendering.

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Agreed. I used to own the Minolta 85/1.5 G. It was a superb portrait lens. It didn't just take good photos. It produced portraits. That rendering and bokeh just made it more than an excellent 85mm lens.


a77ii- Sony 135/2.8 STF, 16-50/2.8, 70-200/2.8 G
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Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

The Sony 85mm f2.8 is surprisingly good. I can recommend the Minolta AF 85mm f/1.4 - outstanding bokeh. The Sigma 90mm and Minolta 100mm 2.8 Macro's are ok depending on the working distance and background.   


I totally agree with most of this - but the Minolta 100/2.8 is way better than ok. By chance I spent yesterday with the Sigma 90 (April Foolishness) - much of it wishing I'd chosen the Minolta. It's not that the Sigma is bad, just that the Minolta is superb.

Portraiture covers quite a range from studio to street - in a posed setting you have time to move around to frame the shot, in the wild you may find a prime a bit limiting - have you considered a fast tele-zoom? I have a Minolta 80-200/2.8 HS APO that offers great IQ and more flexibility. A pro friend uses this style of lens in her studio for portraiture (people & pets), which is the core of her business.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote skm.sa100 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 April 2021 at 12:13
Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:


Hmmm, perhaps, but I'd propose the Cosina-AF-100mm-F3.5 as a possible counterexample. Not bad optically, but the AF is hilariously noisy and crude. I'm too embarrassed to use it AF but it's light enough to be useful in MF on the LA-EA1/Nex.


It's always possible to find a counterexample to my general point. There might be bad 85/1.4 lenses. I've lived in a narrow band of A-mount only so far and I'm only saying this based on that experience and what I've heard people say here on Dyxum.
Even the "plastic fantastic" is supposed to be decent enough for its price point. It's a budget lens that can punch above its weight class, considering what you might pay for it.

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Agreed. I used to own the Minolta 85/1.5 G. It was a superb portrait lens. It didn't just take good photos. It produced portraits. That rendering and bokeh just made it more than an excellent 85mm lens.




100% agree. Like I've said, I own the 85/1.4 GD and its rendering and bokeh are really breath taking. Just an amazing piece of glass. The MAF 50/1.7 is a surprisingly good portrait lens on APS-C. The 135/2.8 truly shines as a head-and-shoulders or head shot piece of glass but it's very limiting for other purposes.

The 85/1.4 GD, though, is just ethereal. Pair it with the A900, as the OP is looking for, and you have a winning combination. It's your skills that will be the limit.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mestari Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 April 2021 at 13:19
All has been said already, but still I will add that I can recommend the ZA 85/1.4. It is also great on a900, yet another really good 85 lens.
And since A mount is apparently dead (at least for some ;) ) all those lenses can be had for less then some time ago :)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 April 2021 at 14:10
The Minolta/Sony 100 F2.8, 50mm F1.7, and 135 F2.8 all have pretty awful axial CA. The Sony 85 F2.8 and Tamron 90 F2.5 are quite poor too. The macros are fine stopped down for macro. These don't compare well at all to my Canon EF 100mm F2 USM for portraiture. I assume the Minolta AF 100mm F2 would be much better too--maybe better than the Canon, IDK.

The Tamron SP 85 F1.8 USD is in another class. I wish I could compare it to the old 85 F1.4's. It is eleven years newer than the ZA. It is much better than the contemporary FE 85 F1.8 or the Canon EF 85 F1.8 and 100 F2.



Edited by QuietOC - 04 April 2021 at 14:15
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Post Options Post Options   Quote macronut Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 April 2021 at 04:46
I donít understand why the OPís listed choices donít include any of the Minolta 85mm 1.4 lenses. You canít go wrong with any of them. They will deliver! Go with the D version if the extra money isnít a concern. The price difference isnít extreme. Youíll also get better lens coatings.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MisterAndrew Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 June 2021 at 08:50
I would go for the SAL85F14Z.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote overeema Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2021 at 11:45
Originally posted by Maffe Maffe wrote:

Why not the fantastic 100/2
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I agree
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