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    Posted: 09 October 2021 at 15:08
I found this trail from searching topo maps around Zion National Park to do something less traveled but with photographic interest, and boy did this hit both marks.

The "difficult" rating for this trail is well deserved. There was a 1.5 mile hike through a canyon, then a steep climb up 1,200' to exit the canyon. After another 1.5 miles of wayfinding through desert washes and hillsides, the last half mile was scaling slickrock with stretches at a 45 degree incline. In May with a temp near 80F this was a brutal hike, I ran out of water on the way back and was pretty dehydrated. Some lessons were learned on this day.

That said, the eroded features of the domes at the top of the hike were incredible and made the tough trek worthwhile. I loved the sweeping waves and scattered bands of rusty color.

All shots with a6500 & 11-18. Edited in LR, some to add texture/contrast to highlight the rock banding.

Other shots from this trip:
Yant Flat
The Nautalis
Cottonwood Canyon Road (6 posts down)

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Thanks for looking!

Edited by steve14 - 14 October 2021 at 00:54
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I've never done that hike and have never seen images of the location. You were rewarded and even with the midday light, these are just fine. #9 is a wonderful end to the series and my favorite in the group.
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80F is about 27°C. Looking at the blue sky I can understand you ran out of water on the way back and was pretty dehydrated with that temperature.

I think the midday light added to the scene. Like Roger I like #9 best but I also really like #1. TFS.
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Wow, great shots.
The B&W #2 is quite attractive, imho...

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Idleidolidyll Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 October 2021 at 18:38

Wow! That's a great location! I'd be planning return trips and overnight camping so I could capture varying angles of light.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote owenn01 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 October 2021 at 10:40
Hi Steve.

Oh wow - how I wish I could have (a) found these and (b) managed the hike! A little worrying you managed to run out of water and became dehydrated - after going there in September a few years ago I can completely relate to the story!

I like all the images and it's difficult to find one that appeals more than the other for all sorts of reasons. I think what sets these out is the much more delicate nature of the lines which countless years of erosion have established, and given the time of day you've managed the relief of these really well; theres not a huge amount of contrast available to you in these so they aren't as 'hard' and defined as you often see from locations around here (think 'The Wave'?) but the delicacy suits the colours and shapes very nicely.

I think the B&W versions could take a lot more work if I'm honest - I'd like to see more tonal differences in the lines and here you do have an opportunity to 'push' this aspect to bring out the lines and flowing nature of the rocks. I think the range of tones is quite small (unsurprising) but you need some darker tones to make these really 'pop'. Might be worth a try to see just how far you can push it?

Forcing me into making a selection, #'s 3 and 5 are the two I'd choose for the display of the wear patterns and the flowing lines, whilst for composition it has to be #9 for the excellent placement of the tree, the layering of colours and, for me (and rather strangely) how you've very carefully framed that tree - the 'sand' it sits in is a rather lovely shape in itself whilst you've carefully managed to frame the tree such that it sits in the horizon line of the mesa behind it which I also find very pleasing - sort of 'framed by nature' as it were!

I hope you manage to go back there and see what else you can get from there - looks like lots of potential and I suspect that area is full of that. it was the one thing that struck whilst out there - opportunities seemed almost limitless for scenes such as these.

Obviously, take care ("drink more fluids!") and best regards, Neil.

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Wonderful shots - I love the colour contrasts in 7 and 9 - blue sky is amazing against the rocks; 2 B&W is super.
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Excellent work capturing the blue sky against those colors - I've never managed it as well as you have.
Most amazing thing to me is you actually found a place in Zion that wasn't overrun with visitors.    
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Originally posted by momech momech wrote:

Excellent work capturing the blue sky against those colors - I've never managed it as well as you have.
Most amazing thing to me is you actually found a place in Zion that wasn't overrun with visitors.    


I sympathise with that comment. I tend to avoid places that have been shot by thousands of photographers before me if I can. That is unless I think I have a unique take on them and think I can make a different looking shot.
I don't know how many different shots of Big Bend I've seen that all look the same (I think that's what it's called). There must be a car park or lookout that everyone uses.
In that case, I'd be trying really hard to walk away from the std shooting point to find something else.
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Originally posted by Idleidolidyll Idleidolidyll wrote:

I don't know how many different shots of Big Bend I've seen that all look the same (I think that's what it's called). There must be a car park or lookout that everyone uses.


We were there in 2018. I visited the parking lot three times and each time failed to find a place so moved on - partly because of frustration and then, ultimately, the fact that so many had gone before that I was unlikely to get anything different from countless others before me.

We mentioned this to the B&B owner when we got back the last time and he said that something like 10 years ago, they had 400,00 visitors per year go there. At the last count (something like 2016/7), they had experienced close to 2.5 million people visit it. They are now constructing a Park and Ride facility some way out to be able to deal with the sheer volume of people apparently. Such is the fame of a location being 'The Place' to go and see I guess.

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Originally posted by owenn01 owenn01 wrote:

Originally posted by Idleidolidyll Idleidolidyll wrote:

I don't know how many different shots of Big Bend I've seen that all look the same (I think that's what it's called). There must be a car park or lookout that everyone uses.


We were there in 2018. I visited the parking lot three times and each time failed to find a place so moved on - partly because of frustration and then, ultimately, the fact that so many had gone before that I was unlikely to get anything different from countless others before me.

We mentioned this to the B&B owner when we got back the last time and he said that something like 10 years ago, they had 400,00 visitors per year go there. At the last count (something like 2016/7), they had experienced close to 2.5 million people visit it. They are now constructing a Park and Ride facility some way out to be able to deal with the sheer volume of people apparently. Such is the fame of a location being 'The Place' to go and see I guess.

Best regards, Neil.


Yep, that would turn me around to look for some other location.
Given the sheer number of shots of the place (and other famous spots), any image has to be either unique or of a very very special quality to stand out.
Of course, a shot just to record that you were there; is personal and up to you.
Nowadays, when I see those shots of famous places, I don't fav, like or comment because, inevitably, I've seen better
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Thanks everyone for the kind words and for the concern. After rehydrating and resting for the night I was all better the next day. Now I take a water filter with me on every hike.

I was at Zion the day before this hike to do Angels Landing. I got a ticket for the 7am shuttle and was done with that hike by noon and left the park. Way too crowded for my enjoyment. The Water Canyon/White Domes hike is about 45 minutes from Zion near the AZ border. There were probably 20 cars at the trailhead when I left but I didn't see anyone after leaving the canyon. Yant Flat was the other "off the beaten path" hike that I did and I only saw two other groups for the 3 or so hours I explored that area. Lots of good alternates to Zion in SW Utah/NW AZ.

Mike - I believe you are talking about Horseshoe Bend near Page, AZ. Yes that one is overshot. Those roadside sights that are easy to access tend to be that way.

Neil, thanks for your constructive feedback. I've taken a stab at redoing #2 and #6 and some other compositions with stronger processing. I haven't done much B&W processing so I'm learning what works. I'm not used to pushing the contrast/black/white/shadow/highlight sliders to 0/100 but it does the trick in B&W. It is sometimes difficult to get the sky to look uniform (see #13, I think I almost got it). I pushed the dehaze in #10 and #13, but it doesn't work as well for #11. Did I go too far?

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11. (slightly different angle of #6)


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I love the colors of 9, but the BW geometry of 4 is a my favorite ... and 10 13 12 are striking, so maybe more experimentation if you have time.
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There is a Big Bend in Zion, somewhat similar to Horseshoe Bend but even more overshot.
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