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    Posted: 09 October 2019 at 22:07
Imagine, you are a photographer in a country that is basically on the edge of a civil war. The economy is tanking and you are not sure if you can buy food for your family. But you have one guilty pleasure, you cannot really afford it, but it gives you so much pleasure, so, you pay 12,09 a month for Lightroom. And then Adobe informs you they will deactivate your account

Adobe to Deactivate Venezuela Users' Accounts by the End of the Month

To my surprise most photography "news" sites (petapixel, Dpreview, imaging resource, shutterbug) do not report it, only F-stoppers has. They did report on the latest Photoshop version a few days before - I am not one for conspiracy theories, but it made me think.....
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One wonders of they originally set it up in local currency - in which case, they may as well give it away...? If they did then they only have themselves to blame for providing something of a lost cause in terms of profitability?

Not sure what other reasons there would be to 'pull' the product in this way?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 October 2019 at 06:26
They pull the product because of USA sanctions, not because of profitability.
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Figures....
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I've been a hobbyist 'tog for 10+ yrs and I've always gotten by open source. Results are good enough for me. I've preferred to spend money on gear and travel and never felt the inclination to pirate Adobe products.

I once downloaded a trial version of LR but never really played with it enough, since that happened when my daughter was just born and life was too busy anyway.

My view is that such products are useful for people who make money out of photography (but I've seen some awful commercial 'togs) and would like to claim such usage for marketing purposes or perhaps togs who get such software thru employers (magazines, big studios etc).

Are there hobbyists on this forum who pay for Adobe products? Maybe we can create a poll to see what kind of software usage happens.
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Why is buying software useful for people who make money out of photography and not for hobbyists? I do not see it.

Also, the problem is not paying for software. If one kind of software supports your photography better then another, get the one that is better - even if you have to pay for it. Does not matter whether you are an amateur or a professional.
It is about subscription software: if the the company stops support - for what reason whatsoever - you're screwed.

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I pay for Capture One Pro for Sony every couple of years. I don't really use the Pro features, but I like the software.

I strongly dislike monthly fees, but I am paying plenty of them for entertainment media like Spotify, Youtube, and Netflix. I suppose paying monthly for Adobe and Microsoft apps wouldn't be much worse.

I have Adobe CS6 installed but don't use it much. I've never tried Lightroom. I use Windows Photo Gallery for culling jpegs. It would be nice to find something better (faster) for that.

I just upgraded my PC with a 2TB Intel 660p which should help. I also decided to move the hard drive archive into my PC. I would have bought a 4TB or larger version of the 660p if it was available. I have less than 2TB of photos.



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It's been an interesting three years soon with Trump behind the helm, financially (not so much environmental-protection-actly).

The only photo processing softare I pay for nowadays is EasyHDR because it is, indeed, easy to use and works on Linux. (For the drone mostly although I have a few long exposures I'm going to try to blend)

Darktable 2.7 looks good and isn't slow as molasses. I think I would still use DXO if I had the choice, ..hmm, but perhaps not, as I've gotten used to DTs masks and denoising. Luckily there is no choice and I don't have to pay in order to upgrade DT.

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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:


It is about subscription software: if the the company stops support - for what reason whatsoever - you're screwed.
I think it's worse, for raw converters (like Lightroom) you're screwed when you stop your subscription. Then Adobe disables the develop module. Library (and those rudimentary controls) still work and you can still import new images. I think it would be more logical (fair?) if Adobe just disabled the import module/feature. Then you can still work on all the photo's you imported during the subscription and find another software for any new photos.
For me that's the reason I'm for the time being staying on LR 6.14 (the very latest perpetual licence version), but I guess at some time that becomes impractical, the maps module already doesn't work and any operating system upgrade is a liability for more things not working anymore.
I also use C1 on some specific pictures (mainly with bright reds/bright blues I find the rendering more pleasing when converted to sRGB), but the DAM features that are in in Lightroom I haven't found in any other raw converter yet, which is the reason that my main archive is (and will stay) on Lightroom.

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