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    Posted: 24 May 2020 at 11:00
I'm looking to buy an A mount 1:1 macro lens with fixed focal length in the range of 50-90mm. I've got the Sigma 180 3.5 which is a lovely lens, but the impact of extension tubes is less effective on longer lenses, so looking to complement it with something a bit shorter. Auto focus is not important as will be using with LAEA3 A->FE adaptor, so ideal scenario would be an optically mint AF lens with broken AF motor.

Not looking to spend much, there's a few bouncing around on ebay in the sub £100 region, so thought I'd see if dyxummers have anything collecting dust that they thought wasn't worth selling
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Post Options Post Options   Quote nandbytes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 2020 at 12:43
I am guessing you are wanting to go past 1:1?

I suggest getting laowa 100mm 2:1 macro and trying your 1.4x TC which will get you to 2.8:1. probably the simplest and most effective in terms of IQ.

Another cheap way of getting beyond 1:1 is using raynox macro adapter, even the raynox dcr-150 will give you up to 2.73:1 with you sigma 180mm

http://extreme-macro.co.uk/raynox-adapter-techniques/#calculator

I have got a spare DCR-150 (actually 2 spare lol) if you fancy one. But I would like to swap one for DCR-250 so I'll keep the extra spare. Should come within your budget too

If you do decide to stack extension tubes you'll be better off with 50mm than 90mm (even at 90mm I wasn't happy with the increased magnification and if you stack too may you'll loose IQ/light). Good luck on your hunt.

As a personal rule of thumb (from experimenting) 20mm-60mm for ext. tubes and 70mm+ I'd go with raynox. But you can use the above website to figure out how much magnification you can achieve. they have various calculators for various setups.


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The Sony DT 30mm F2.8 Macro SAM will really give high magnification with some extension.
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Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

The Sony DT 30mm F2.8 Macro SAM will really give high magnification with some extension.


Its APS-C, he uses FF.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 May 2020 at 13:27
Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

The Sony DT 30mm F2.8 Macro SAM will really give high magnification with some extension.


Its APS-C, he uses FF.

It covers FF especially at high magnification.
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The Minolta 50mm f2.8 macro is a very fine lens - I suspect the D is the best version, but I have only tried the original and RS, the latter being a bit better mainly because of the focus hold button the original lacks.

The Minolta 100mm f2.8 macro D is superb, a smidge sharper than the very sharp 50mm. But you'd be very, very lucky to get it for less than £100.

I have a number of other macros (Sony DT 30, Sigma 90, Sigma EX DG 70, Sigma 50) and all take good pictures, but none have the magic of the Minoltas.

Shame about the lockdown or we could meet up and you could try a few.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote rastapartaman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 May 2020 at 08:40
The tamron 60 f2 it's also a brilliant lens. And doubles as a portrait lens.   AF is slow but accurate. Works great with TC or extension tubes. The reynox is also a valid option and doesn't degrade IQ.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote nandbytes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 May 2020 at 09:31
Originally posted by rastapartaman rastapartaman wrote:

The tamron 60 f2 it's also a brilliant lens. And doubles as a portrait lens.   AF is slow but accurate. Works great with TC or extension tubes. The reynox is also a valid option and doesn't degrade IQ.


Also an APS-C lens isn't it?
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Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

I am guessing you are wanting to go past 1:1?

I suggest getting laowa 100mm 2:1 macro and trying your 1.4x TC which will get you to 2.8:1. probably the simplest and most effective in terms of IQ.

Another cheap way of getting beyond 1:1 is using raynox macro adapter, even the raynox dcr-150 will give you up to 2.73:1 with you sigma 180mm

http://extreme-macro.co.uk/raynox-adapter-techniques/#calculator

I have got a spare DCR-150 (actually 2 spare lol) if you fancy one. But I would like to swap one for DCR-250 so I'll keep the extra spare. Should come within your budget too

If you do decide to stack extension tubes you'll be better off with 50mm than 90mm (even at 90mm I wasn't happy with the increased magnification and if you stack too may you'll loose IQ/light). Good luck on your hunt.

As a personal rule of thumb (from experimenting) 20mm-60mm for ext. tubes and 70mm+ I'd go with raynox. But you can use the above website to figure out how much magnification you can achieve. they have various calculators for various setups.

Thanks Anand, some great suggestions. The laowa is a fair bit above my £100 budget though unfortunately - and I think if I went to that budget for native e-mount then I'd be looking for AF. Re the DCR-150, how much would you be looking for for it? It won't work with the Sigma I don't think (seems to be limited to max 67mm filter thread and Sigma is 72mm), but might be a worthy addition to a shorter budget macro?

And thanks for the link too, that's fantastic, will be bookmarking that one
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 May 2020 at 11:37
You know Ffordes has a Minolta original 50mm Macro for 99 GBP? If not, now you know
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

You know Ffordes has a Minolta original 50mm Macro for 99 GBP? If not, now you know


can get for £50-60 easily on ebay or in other places. ffordes is generally way overpriced.
and IME worst customer service of the shops in UK.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 May 2020 at 13:20
Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

You know Ffordes has a Minolta original 50mm Macro for 99 GBP? If not, now you know


can get for £50-60 easily on ebay or in other places. ffordes is generally way overpriced.
and IME worst customer service of the shops in UK.
Well, I never had any use for their customer service. They offer, however, 6 months warranty.

I do not do ebay as ebay has no warranty. Looking at Ebay, I indeed see cheap 50mm Macro's for prices you mention, but they are all from japan.

If 50mm Macro's are 50 GBP from reliable Ebay sellers, why are we having this discussion?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Tricky01 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 May 2020 at 13:42
Thanks both for the tips. Will take a look at Ffordes and another look at ebay - I saw most being from Japan but maybe need to be a bit more patient.
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