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The Minolta 80-200 mm F2.8 APO HS is the nicest lens I've used. Beautiful color, rendition, and bokeh. I haven't tried the 200 mm prime, so I should give that a go. The Zeiss 50 mm F1.4 is also nice, as is the Zeiss 24mm F2.

Edit: I was saying the Beer Can was probably my least favorite lens, but I was just testing it out on the A7RIV with LA-EA5 and I got some wonderful results. I'm amazed.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 June 2021 at 11:41
Dark? What do you mean?
Slow AF, yep
Sharpens when you stop down, fine at f/5.6
Never really noticed vignette - so, not horrific

Giving this picture:


But I agree, it is not as good as some people claimed. But also is not as bad as some others claim. I found it a good people lens: nice bokeh, nice colour, nice focallength. But as always, YMMV and it did.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 June 2021 at 13:53
Since buying into full-frame the AF 135 F2.8 Pocket Rocket has literally been my favorite A-mount lens--as in the most used one. It is a bit wide for my uses though, and has some optical qualities I don't like.

The Tamron SP 85 F1.8 USD is the best A-mount lens I have optically and seems worth the bulk over the inferior FE 85 F1.8. The Tamron has a noticeably tighter angle-of-view than the Sony but is still wider than I have much use for. It is not A-mount exclusive other than lacking VC.

I am liking the Minolta AF 100 F2.8 Soft Focus so far--more than the Canon EF 135 F2.8 Softfocus. It seems a much better general prime than the Minolta/Sony Macro too.

Edited by QuietOC - 11 June 2021 at 02:12
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Wētāpunga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 June 2021 at 23:52
Originally posted by MisterAndrew MisterAndrew wrote:

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My least favorite lens is probably the beer can. I never quite understood its popularity. It's pretty awful. Dark, slow, not sharp, and horrific vignetting.


I think part of the reputation of the beercan came from those exciting early years (2006-8) of the A-mount in Sony's hands.

People who had the standard 75-300mm lens were underwhelmed. (It was underwhelming) and the next choice up for a telephoto was the 70-200/2.8 G SSM. That was well out of budget for most.

The beercan filled a niche. It was a telephoto that filled the gap between the two aforementioned lenses, was reasonably easy to find 2nd hand, and if you got a good copy, was sharp and had appealing rendering. I've got some macro shots from it that look absolutely fine. I got some lovely portraits.

A lot of posts on Dyxum in this era were about new people to the mount asking what telephoto to get that wasn't as dull as the SAL75-300 or as expensive as the 70-200/2.8 G. The beercan became in practical terms, the default.

It also had flaws, as to be expected of a lens of that era. And if these were overlooked, its reputation could be exaggerated. It does not for instance, qualify as my favourite A mount, or even be a contender. But what it did well, it usually did very well.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2021 at 00:18
Judging from the eight or so copies of the 70-210 F4 I've used it varies a whole lot less than the later telephoto zooms. The late 75-300 can actually be pretty decent. The original 75-300 may be even better.

I am sure the 80-200 G should be considerably better.

Edited by QuietOC - 11 June 2021 at 00:58
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Wētāpunga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2021 at 01:48
Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

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I am sure the 80-200 G should be considerably better.


I don't doubt it, but that seemed much, much rarer than the beercan in used-lens markets. The other popular option was the 100-300 APO.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2021 at 02:09
Where are the 100 F2's?

Getting back to Addy. I am still comparing 200 F2.8's. What is the Minolta good for? My use main use would be cars in whatever sunlight. The comparison is still not going well for the Minolta.

I am looking for a Canon 300 F4 now.

Edited by QuietOC - 11 June 2021 at 02:13
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Wētāpunga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2021 at 03:48
Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

Where are the 100 F2's?...


Mentioned by @pegelli and @waldo_posth I think. Never had the chance to try one so I can't comment.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote overeema Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2021 at 11:42
Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

Where are the 100 F2's?

--snip--

My 100 F2 is always in my bag. Light weight. Sturdy. Splendid optical performance. Can be used at full aparture without hesitation.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2021 at 12:12
I've been looking to try a 100 F2. Where are they? I'd rather not import one.

The lack of stopped down focusing is very annoying with the Soft Focus. SA really confuses on-sensor phase-detect. I guess I should finally get an adapter with manual aperture control.

Edited by QuietOC - 11 June 2021 at 12:17
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Post Options Post Options   Quote balacau Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 June 2021 at 10:48
It's be a bit of a difficult question for me to answer really but I'll give it a go anyway.

Certainly I can't narrow it down to just one lens, I've bought too many over the years and have a much smaller collection now than I used to have by quite a fair margin.

Ultra wide lens - Sigma 8-16mm
Macro lens - Tamron 60mm F2
Telephoto zoom - Sony 55-300mm

None of those lenses are perfect and I am considering switching the 55-300 for the e-mount 70-350G but they are pretty great and hold lots of good memories for me.

It's interesting to see the Sony/Minolta 16mm fisheye being mentioned here. I would have loved to get hold of one of those but eventually went with the Sigma 10mm diagonal fisheye; an excellent lens in its own right.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote skm.sa100 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 June 2021 at 14:24
I've heard a lot about the 100 F2 and considered getting one. But I already have the 85/1.4 G D and they seemed too close to me to pay for yet another expensive piece of glass.
I looked for, but couldn't find a comparison between these two.
Also considered the 100/2.8 soft focus but refrained due to above similar reasons. Besides, soft focus can be replicated in software, albeit maybe not quite as good.

@QuietOC, I've bought several lenses from eBay Japanese camera stores and don't have a single complaint. I check to make sure the sellers have good ratings and reviews and I inspect and test the glass one I get it. Maybe you could give it a shot and see.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 June 2021 at 18:36
I prefer the 85/1.4 over the 100/2. But I feel that is more due to focallength then lens quality. The 85/1.4 wide open has character (technically not that good, but it renders nice), by f/2 it is fine and I think it is comparable to the 100/2 (without side by side testing).

If you come across one for a nice price, get it. But if you like your 85G, there is no real need to go out of your way to find one. IMHO. YMMV.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote skm.sa100 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 June 2021 at 16:37
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:



If you come across one for a nice price, get it.


That's *exactly* why I have about 20 lenses in a cabinet!
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